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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 29 02:18:10 2014 I tried Sabayon, Ubuntu, and Mint. All in Virtual Box.Sabayon = no GUI. It installs, it boots, it automatically logs in as root with a command prompt. Ubuntu = Virtual Box is trapping it at 640 x 480 display only it hasn't figured that out making half the screen inaccessible. Mint = Works. Gonna take some time playing with it. Hardware acceleration doesn't work properly in Virtual Box. Also, as long as I was experimenting... Darwin = doesn't boot. Hangs halfway through. Not entirely unexpected, since it's an old version of Darwin that doesn't support most modern machines anyway. I haven't tried PureDarwin yet. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Wed Oct 29 02:29:00 2014, in response to Linux Fail, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 29 02:18:10 2014. Darwin didn't work?Did you try Creationist? sorry........just couldn't resist :) |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 29 03:45:28 2014, in response to Linux Fail, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 29 02:18:10 2014. OK so apparently the Sabayon iso was corrupted. That might explain stuff? Will try again... |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 29 03:47:19 2014, in response to Re: Linux Fail, posted by Express Rider on Wed Oct 29 02:29:00 2014. Creationist didn't boot, I just got an error message saying it couldn't find the kernel.According to the documentation, the kernel is called "God" but it didn't come with the install image and I can't find it anywhere. |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Wed Oct 29 07:39:52 2014, in response to Linux Fail, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 29 02:18:10 2014. Is that the Cinnamon or the MATE version of Mint? |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 29 09:19:22 2014, in response to Re: Linux Fail, posted by kew gardens teleport on Wed Oct 29 07:39:52 2014. The latter. |
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Posted by rkba on Wed Oct 29 10:15:12 2014, in response to Linux Fail, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 29 02:18:10 2014. Just install gentoo and be done with it. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 29 12:23:27 2014, in response to Linux Fail, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 29 02:18:10 2014. Sounds like a funky monitor/video card that Virtual Box doesn't know. Video cards and wifi cards are the bane of KNOS coding. So many non-standards, so many custom bits of driver code that has to be written to make them work. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Oct 29 18:36:52 2014, in response to Re: Linux Fail, posted by rkba on Wed Oct 29 10:15:12 2014. Why? Trying to torture him? |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Oct 29 18:44:16 2014, in response to Re: Linux Fail, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 29 12:23:27 2014. Heh. That's why I have to hand it to Nvidia, who - last I heard - provided a driver in a binary blob which actually works. And why, for years, I giggled at the people working on the open source ATI driver who poo-poo'ed binary blobs, saying they'll have something working soon, any time now, for cards that were a generation or 2 old. Yeah, you go ahead and have your brand-new card sitting in its box for 6 months to a year, while I stick in my Nvidia card and have it work the same day.Then again, I haven't had to change out my video card in years, so perhaps the ATI/AMD people got their act together. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 29 18:54:26 2014, in response to Re: Linux Fail, posted by 3-9 on Wed Oct 29 18:44:16 2014. Yep ... that's your Linux people for you. :("got to be free ... free software, free everything, why do you charge for KNOS?" OK, give me a house, give me a car and that's a nice cheeseburger you have there, thanks. Hey! Wait a minute! That's MINE! Exactly. :) One of the primary reasons why we built on BSD is that under the BSD license, proprietary is perfectly fine. So is non-disclosure agreements if someone gives us code to include. We don't HAVE to give that away if it belongs to somebody else. Linux. Lulz |
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Posted by rkba on Wed Oct 29 19:11:56 2014, in response to Re: Linux Fail, posted by 3-9 on Wed Oct 29 18:36:52 2014. The casual black box attitude people have towards computers is why there's so much garbage floating around.Eternal September |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Oct 29 21:35:36 2014, in response to Re: Linux Fail, posted by rkba on Wed Oct 29 19:11:56 2014. The contents of that Pandora's Box have long since flown the coop. Besides the obvious, AOL, Cantor and Siegel also made their mark. :-( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 29 21:49:49 2014, in response to Re: Linux Fail, posted by 3-9 on Wed Oct 29 21:35:36 2014. [KNOS@KNOS-64 ~]$ sdatesdate: command not found [KNOS@KNOS-64 ~]$ No September here Ok [KNOS@KNOS-64 ~]$ :) |
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Posted by rkba on Wed Oct 29 21:50:37 2014, in response to Re: Linux Fail, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 29 21:49:49 2014. BeOS, rehashed! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 29 21:51:46 2014, in response to Re: Linux Fail, posted by rkba on Wed Oct 29 21:50:37 2014. With yeggs! :) |
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Posted by rkba on Wed Oct 29 22:11:04 2014, in response to Re: Linux Fail, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 29 21:51:46 2014. A staple of any complete breakfast! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 29 22:44:21 2014, in response to Re: Linux Fail, posted by rkba on Wed Oct 29 22:11:04 2014. And shoes for industry! |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu Oct 30 01:50:03 2014, in response to Re: Linux Fail, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 29 18:54:26 2014. Sometimes I wonder if some of those developers or organizers are Microsoft shills in disguise. :-( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 30 01:59:12 2014, in response to Re: Linux Fail, posted by 3-9 on Thu Oct 30 01:50:03 2014. Nah ... just dumbasses that actually believe that since Windows came with the computer, it must be free and therefore everything else should be too. They never understood the "Microsoft tax" that can turn a $200 computer into a $600 computer since that was never itemized.Linux' biggest problem is no hierarchy, no discipline, no head chef. Anarchy is no way to build reliability, but that's Linux. The new "systemd" mess is a perfect example of all indians, no chief. :( |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 30 13:28:29 2014, in response to Re: Linux Fail, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 30 01:59:12 2014. They never understood the "Microsoft tax" that can turn a $200 computer into a $600 computer since that was never itemized.I don't pay the Microsoft Tax. I'm currently using a Mac. It cost $7. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 30 13:28:31 2014, in response to Re: Linux Fail, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 29 18:54:26 2014. OK, give me a house, give me a car and that's a nice cheeseburger you have there, thanks. Hey! Wait a minute! That's MINE! Exactly. :)So you paid for BSD? |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 30 13:28:38 2014, in response to Re: Linux Fail, posted by rkba on Wed Oct 29 10:15:12 2014. LOL! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 30 14:49:54 2014, in response to Re: Linux Fail, posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 30 13:28:29 2014. True ... on Macs, the tax is on the same hardware that goes into peecees that cost half as much and are more powerful. Ask any Hackintosh user how that works out. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 30 14:51:00 2014, in response to Re: Linux Fail, posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 30 13:28:31 2014. Actually, we do. We contribute to freebsd.org every year in folding money. Somebody's got to pay for the google summer of code trips and BSD cons for the students. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 30 20:22:22 2014, in response to Re: Linux Fail, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 30 14:49:54 2014. ... peecees that cost half as much...So I can get a PC for $3.50? :) |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 30 20:22:24 2014, in response to Re: Linux Fail, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 30 14:51:00 2014. Ah good. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 30 21:08:25 2014, in response to Re: Linux Fail, posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 30 20:22:22 2014. Craig's list ... but whatever you do, don't plug it in. :)Now you KNOW what I meant ... (grin) |
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