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Could non-citizens decide the November election? |
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Posted by DANd124 on Fri Oct 24 23:13:58 2014 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2014/10/24/could-non-citizens-decide-the-november-election/ |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Oct 24 23:37:39 2014, in response to Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by DANd124 on Fri Oct 24 23:13:58 2014. If illegals vote, people who post here think that's a good thing. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Fri Oct 24 23:41:59 2014, in response to Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by DANd124 on Fri Oct 24 23:13:58 2014. Interesting. As the authors admit, there are lots of limitations in that study. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 24 23:45:34 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Oct 24 23:37:39 2014. No, we most certainly don't! I'm aghast at the numbers they're claiming and have some serious reservations about the quality of their sampling to arrive at such outrageous percentages. What did they do? Drive a truck around Home Depot for a couple of weeks to poll? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 24 23:48:12 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by italianstallion on Fri Oct 24 23:41:59 2014. Maybe it was Lowes that truck drove around for a couple of weeks then. :) |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Oct 25 00:12:49 2014, in response to Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by DANd124 on Fri Oct 24 23:13:58 2014. That is one ridiculous question. Sounds like its intended to rile up RWers. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 25 00:30:20 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 24 23:45:34 2014. I voted today.Lots of obvious Democrat voters around. No illegals should vote, but if you say so, you're a racist. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 25 00:45:19 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 25 00:30:20 2014. Nope ... just an American. When I get to vote in Canada, I'll reconsider that statement. I don't like Harper. :) |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 04:38:57 2014, in response to Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by DANd124 on Fri Oct 24 23:13:58 2014. Out of 55,000 people polled, 13 said they were non-citizens who voted. Statistically significant? No. They could have screwed up the answer to one question or the other.They didn't ask "Were you registered to vote (and voted) at an address where you did not live? That would probably get a lot more yeses. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 25 04:41:13 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 04:38:57 2014. reread your post. |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Oct 25 07:24:07 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 25 00:45:19 2014. Eh, hoser.... |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 08:04:21 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 25 04:41:13 2014. Yes, I missed a closed quote. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 08:08:17 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by italianstallion on Fri Oct 24 23:41:59 2014. 13 of 55,000 questioned said they voted and weren't citizens.You get a certain percentage who answer the question wrong in any case. Maybe they answer yes to voted when they didn't actually because they were thinking of something else. Even if everyone answered correctly and it was a perfect sample (both absurd suppositions), the standard deviation is about 3.5. And also there are far more common causes of illegal voting they didn't ask about which overwhelm this cause. |
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Posted by train dude on Sat Oct 25 08:53:49 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Oct 24 23:37:39 2014. Only some here think its a good thing. Most understand that when an illegal votes or a person votes twice, dishonest votes cancel out the vote of an honest voter. So when the elections don't go the wsy "they" want, the ones who say voter fraud is no big deal will have one more thong to think about. If all does go well for them, though, they can just smile. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 08:57:37 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by train dude on Sat Oct 25 08:53:49 2014. I haven't seen anyone here say that voting by non-citizens is a good thing. I have said that it's a bad thing.But all the evidence indicates most illegal voting is not caught by voter ID laws, and that most of the people stopped from voting by voter ID laws are legally entitled to vote. |
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Posted by train dude on Sat Oct 25 09:01:10 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 08:08:17 2014. So you sre saying that when asked, some illegals would say that they did vote when they actually didn't becsuse they didn't understand the wuestion. Couldn't it then work the other way and a person say no because they didn't understand what they were being asked. Of course none would lie about voting illegally. That would be unamerican. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Oct 25 09:03:04 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by train dude on Sat Oct 25 08:53:49 2014. That's only an issue if the election is close. Few are close to the point where one or two ballots (which can be reviewed and suspicious ones invalidated through the courts) matter. |
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Posted by train dude on Sat Oct 25 09:05:57 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by bingbong on Sat Oct 25 09:03:04 2014. I know but as long as the democrat wins, its all good. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Oct 25 09:06:31 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 24 23:45:34 2014. "No, we most certainly don't." I have a hard time believing that. Coming from someone who advocates massive amnesty and open borders. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Oct 25 09:07:20 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 25 00:30:20 2014. Don't you plan on being in town on November 4th to vote? |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Oct 25 09:09:15 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 25 00:45:19 2014. You don't like Stephen Harper. Of course you don't. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 09:09:34 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by train dude on Sat Oct 25 09:01:10 2014. Couldn't it then work the other way and a person say no because they didn't understand what they were being asked.Absolutely. So the net result is an expected 13 affirmatives out of 55,000, with a standard deviation of pretty near 13. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Oct 25 09:09:46 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by Dave on Sat Oct 25 07:24:07 2014. That's all you have to say? |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Oct 25 09:13:05 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by bingbong on Sat Oct 25 00:12:49 2014. You're ridiculous. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 09:15:57 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by bingbong on Sat Oct 25 00:12:49 2014. It's not a ridiculous question. But based on the article the answer is "not likely based on the evidence we collected." |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 09:21:53 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Oct 25 09:07:20 2014. Maybe he wasn't 100% sure at the time he requested a ballot. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Oct 25 10:12:19 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by bingbong on Sat Oct 25 00:12:49 2014. Well leftists such as yourself just love to hear that people that aren't supposed to be voting are. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Oct 25 10:23:59 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 09:21:53 2014. Is your name LuchAAA? |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Oct 25 12:16:30 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by train dude on Sat Oct 25 09:05:57 2014. If the republicans were interested in doing good for Americans and preserving and expanding our rights, it wouldn't be so crucial to keep them away from power. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 25 12:18:00 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Oct 25 09:09:15 2014. Vive le Quebec libre! :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 25 12:18:25 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by Dave on Sat Oct 25 07:24:07 2014. Hey ... take off, eh. :) |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Oct 25 12:20:21 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 09:15:57 2014. You tell him. Good luck with that. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Oct 25 12:23:00 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 25 12:18:00 2014. What was that? Japanese? |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 12:25:40 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Oct 25 10:23:59 2014. You asked for information that is none of your business, so why shouldn't I answer? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 25 12:25:42 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Oct 25 09:06:31 2014. I don't advocate either. I merely insist that this whole republican religion thing about it is a golden calf. Sure it happens, but it's not major. But I suppose worrying about Mexicans is a little healthier than worrying about Ebola, so carry on then. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 25 12:26:26 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Oct 25 10:12:19 2014. The fuck? :-\ |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 25 12:29:38 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Oct 25 12:23:00 2014. French. |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Oct 25 12:58:24 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 25 12:29:38 2014. "Tish, that's French...." |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Sat Oct 25 12:58:26 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 25 12:29:38 2014. I thought it was Québécois |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Oct 25 13:11:33 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 12:25:40 2014. +0! |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 13:21:28 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by mtk52983 on Sat Oct 25 12:58:26 2014. The most noted person to say it was Charles DeGaulle. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 25 13:36:56 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by Dave on Sat Oct 25 12:58:24 2014. Oh Gomez. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 25 13:37:27 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by mtk52983 on Sat Oct 25 12:58:26 2014. Yeah, didn't want to fish for the keys since most folks around here wouldn't know the difference. :) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Oct 25 13:40:01 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Oct 25 09:13:05 2014. oooooooooooooooh |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Sat Oct 25 13:51:38 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 25 13:37:27 2014. Alt+0233 |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Oct 25 14:00:54 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by mtk52983 on Sat Oct 25 13:51:38 2014. That's why Macs are superior. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 25 14:17:57 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by mtk52983 on Sat Oct 25 13:51:38 2014. Yeah, we don't use Windows here. Just didn't want to be bothered switching languages on the keyboard, or grabbing my Cyrillic one. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 14:33:43 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 25 14:17:57 2014. Not to mention that it isn't specifically Quebecois. :) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 25 15:24:57 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 08:04:21 2014. that's not what I meant.So, anyway, do you think it's only racists and xenophobes who care about non-citizens voting? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 25 15:32:09 2014, in response to Re: Could non-citizens decide the November election?, posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 14:33:43 2014. Sometimes ya just gotta fake it. :) |
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