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Posted by Dave on Thu Oct 23 16:06:38 2014 fiogf49gjkf0d Bay Area tech company caught paying imported workers $1.21 per hour Ever heard of Electronics for Imaging? We hadn't either until this morning, but it's apparently a multimillion dollar, multinational, public corporation based out of Fremont, California. And the United States Department of Labor just caught EFI red-handed in an investigation, which found that "about eight employees" were flown in from India to work 120-hour weeks for $1.21 per hour. EFI apparently thought it was okay to pay the employees the same wages they'd be paid in India (in Indian rupees). Here's the unbelievably crazy sounding quote EFI gave to NBC's Bay Area affiliate: "We unintentionally overlooked laws that require even foreign employees to be paid based on local US standards." Just so we're clear: is there anyone reading this who doesn't know that any person working in the United States is legally required to be compensated according to United States laws? Alberto Raymond, an assistant district director with the US Department of Labor told NBC, "It is certainly outrageous and unacceptable for employers here in Silicon Valley to bring workers and pay less than the minimum wage." And that applies to EFI especially, which posted just shy of $200 million in revenue in its last financial quarter. EFI is publicly traded on the NASDAQ exchange, and the company's in the business of computer peripherals (mainly printer-based stuff). The eight employees are being paid $40,000 in owed wages; they were reportedly installing computer systems at the company's headquarters. EFI was charged $3,500 -- yes, seriously -- for being at fault. http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/23/efi-underpaying-workers/
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Re: Nobody's that stupid
Posted by mtk52983* on Thu Oct 23 16:21:50 2014, in response to Nobody's that stupid, posted by Dave on Thu Oct 23 16:06:38 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Or how about the Socialist Party who advocates a $20/hour minimum wage soliciting employees at a pay of $13/hour
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Re: Nobody's that stupid
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Oct 23 16:23:51 2014, in response to Re: Nobody's that stupid, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Oct 23 16:21:50 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d That's not hypocritical.
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Posted by AlM* on Thu Oct 23 16:43:01 2014, in response to Nobody's that stupid, posted by Dave on Thu Oct 23 16:06:38 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Might it be OK if they were just here on a "business trip"? Any time I went to the UK for my company, I was still paid my regular US pay check. All my living expenses in the UK were of course paid by my employer.
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Re: Nobody's that stupid
Posted by italianstallion* on Thu Oct 23 16:50:24 2014, in response to Nobody's that stupid, posted by Dave on Thu Oct 23 16:06:38 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d It's OK. Republicans don't believe in the minimum wage.
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Re: Nobody's that stupid
Posted by Charles G* on Thu Oct 23 17:17:36 2014, in response to Re: Nobody's that stupid, posted by AlM on Thu Oct 23 16:43:01 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d I'm guessing you make more than the minimum wage in the UK... The rules on what constitutes business travel are not that difficult to understand for an experienced HR person and should be well within the understanding of a publicly traded company with more than 2500 employees. I find it unbelievable/unconscionable that the company got away with just paying a $3500 fine. Seems like there must be more to this story than has been reported so far. (Could be that the company has some legitimate explanation -- though I can't see what that would be -- or that the company has some friends in high places).
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Re: Nobody's that stupid
Posted by LuchAAA* on Thu Oct 23 17:28:10 2014, in response to Re: Nobody's that stupid, posted by italianstallion on Thu Oct 23 16:50:24 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Yes they do. They believe in paying the minimum wage to as many people as possible, and not a cent more.
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Re: Nobody's that stupid
Posted by AlM* on Thu Oct 23 19:12:56 2014, in response to Re: Nobody's that stupid, posted by Charles G on Thu Oct 23 17:17:36 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d I was going to extremes to hypothetically give the company the benefit of the doubt. And if they only paid a $3500 fine, they got away with it. :(
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Re: Nobody's that stupid?
Posted by Olog-hai* on Thu Oct 23 19:14:58 2014, in response to Nobody's that stupid, posted by Dave on Thu Oct 23 16:06:38 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d $1.21/hour in 1937 dollars is $20/hour in 2014 dollars. Just sayin'. And if its the Bay Area, stupid is in the air.
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Re: Nobody's that stupid
Posted by Train Dude* on Thu Oct 23 19:15:51 2014, in response to Nobody's that stupid, posted by Dave on Thu Oct 23 16:06:38 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d I wonder who here would directly benefit from a $15 minimum wage.
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Re: Nobody's that stupid
Posted by Fred G* on Thu Oct 23 19:19:00 2014, in response to Re: Nobody's that stupid, posted by Train Dude on Thu Oct 23 19:15:51 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d All of us would with the extra buying power those people would have. your pal, Fred
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Re: Nobody's that stupid
Posted by chicagomotorman* on Thu Oct 23 19:24:21 2014, in response to Re: Nobody's that stupid, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Oct 23 17:28:10 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d You are a phoney liberal.
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Re: Nobody's that stupid
Posted by SubwaySurf* on Thu Oct 23 19:33:25 2014, in response to Re: Nobody's that stupid, posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 23 19:19:00 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Stop making sense, Fred . 😁
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Re: Nobody's that stupid
Posted by SubwaySurf* on Thu Oct 23 19:34:32 2014, in response to Re: Nobody's that stupid, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Oct 23 19:24:21 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Maybe, but you're a real assclown.
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Re: Nobody's that stupid
Posted by cortelyounext* on Thu Oct 23 19:36:51 2014, in response to Re: Nobody's that stupid, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Oct 23 19:24:21 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d You're welcome.
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Re: Nobody's that stupid
Posted by Train Dude* on Thu Oct 23 20:49:38 2014, in response to Re: Nobody's that stupid, posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 23 19:19:00 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Really? So people making $15 would be using your services?
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Re: Nobody's that stupid
Posted by LuchAAA* on Thu Oct 23 20:56:16 2014, in response to Re: Nobody's that stupid, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Oct 23 19:36:51 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d I think it's time for a List of Aviators. Can't believe people still fly. It's unreal.
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Re: Nobody's that stupid
Posted by ChicagoMotorman* on Thu Oct 23 22:56:48 2014, in response to Re: Nobody's that stupid, posted by SubwaySurf on Thu Oct 23 19:34:32 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Athclown.
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Re: Nobody's that stupid?
Posted by Nilet* on Fri Oct 24 00:16:55 2014, in response to Re: Nobody's that stupid?, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 23 19:14:58 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Yes, and $1.21/hour in 2014 dollars is $1.21/hour in 2014 dollars. Which is what they were paid.
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Re: Nobody's that stupid
Posted by Nilet* on Fri Oct 24 00:16:56 2014, in response to Re: Nobody's that stupid, posted by AlM on Thu Oct 23 19:12:56 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Wasn't it a $3,500 fine and back wages? Sure they still got away with it, but better than nothing.
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Re: Nobody's that stupid
Posted by Nilet* on Fri Oct 24 00:16:58 2014, in response to Re: Nobody's that stupid, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Oct 23 20:56:16 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d I don't fly. Nobody in my country can fly. Technically, greaters do have wings, but they lack the stamina to beat their wings long enough for flight. The most they can manage is an assisted jump.
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Re: Nobody's that stupid
Posted by Nilet* on Fri Oct 24 00:21:06 2014, in response to Re: Nobody's that stupid, posted by AlM on Thu Oct 23 16:43:01 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Minimum wage in Britain is $10.42/hour equivalent. Did you get paid at least that?
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Re: Nobody's that stupid
Posted by terRAPIN station* on Fri Oct 24 08:23:24 2014, in response to Re: Nobody's that stupid, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 24 00:21:06 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d What do you think? I mean seriously.
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Re: Nobody's that stupid
Posted by Nilet* on Fri Oct 24 08:31:41 2014, in response to Re: Nobody's that stupid, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Oct 24 08:23:24 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Yes. That answer is obvious.
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