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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by AlM on Mon Oct 13 10:16:48 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by train dude on Mon Oct 13 09:25:00 2014.

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I wouldn't say that liberals in general are minimizing the risks. The CDC has definitely been accused of liberalism in the past and they are not minimizing anything. They are taking the situation seriously.




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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 13 10:18:31 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by train dude on Mon Oct 13 09:46:48 2014.

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We all show prudent concern, but some of us keep abreast of the facts and not leap on every word, i.e. the virus could mutate, etc.

Second, how did you determine that ONLY Republicans are concerned.

I said "panicking" and not "concerned". We're all concerned but Republicans are panicking. It's likely mock panic because IMO it's of prime importance to the FOXzis to blame Obama for letting Ebola into the US, so ramping up the drama helps achieve that end.

I don't mind being compared to bingbong. Or Nilet. Or RoninBayside or anyone the herd has deemed inappropriate. It doesn't affect my critical thinking.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by train dude on Mon Oct 13 10:52:58 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 13 10:18:31 2014.

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Where is the alleged panic? I stated that the disease "could" mutate. Where is that any different than what the head of the CDC has said. The partisan rhetoric is totally unjustified. Prove that only Republicans are "panicked" over Ebola.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 13 11:51:40 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by train dude on Mon Oct 13 10:52:58 2014.

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He can't.

He's already in bingbong territory by being a devotee of Soros websites such as Media Matters and Thinkprogress.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 13 11:56:23 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 13 11:51:40 2014.

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Much better to be in bingbong territory than Olog territory. Exponentially better.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by AlM on Mon Oct 13 12:01:28 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 13 11:56:23 2014.

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Exponentially better.

If you enter the formula =exp(OlogBS) into Excel it gives you an error because it is too large a number for Excel to handle.



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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 13 12:02:42 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by train dude on Sun Oct 12 20:48:01 2014.

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They have no clue as to how badly Zerocare is straining the medical system. But they will. The liberal media's panic over Ebola is certainly spreading enough FUD to add to the weight (or is that the GOP-controlled major networks, NY Times, NYDN ad nauseam?)

Besides, Mr. Duncan (funny how they changed topics again) came here illegally, lying to authorities to get in.

And Sharpton has zero involvement here, and it in him.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 13 12:06:03 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by train dude on Mon Oct 13 10:52:58 2014.

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The difference being that the CDC head said it was unlikely.

I think Rand Paul gets the prize but others are doing a good job too

more panic

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 13 12:07:17 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by AlM on Mon Oct 13 12:01:28 2014.

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Could we develop a similar number to Avogadro's Number, like say, Olog's Number?

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 13 12:07:29 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 13 11:56:23 2014.

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Right, with all that blood guilt. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and face what you are—a brainwashed radical lefty on the order of any Bolshevik. Or go on through life letting "your pal, George Soros" think for ye.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by bingbong on Mon Oct 13 12:08:13 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 13 10:18:31 2014.

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II's prudent to understand that a virus can mutate (considering that enterovirus is a mutated over 60ish years Polio virus),it's imprudent to shout about it to an undereducated audience on cable TV. These mutations generally do not pop up overnight, and that's what they're selling...and people like train dud eare obviously buying it.

Distorting the truth and the risk does nobody any good. Foxnews is hazardous to our health.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 13 13:36:58 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 13 12:07:29 2014.

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No, I'm a brilliant man. You're a wack job.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 13 13:41:27 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 13 13:36:58 2014.

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Excellent post.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Oct 13 14:22:43 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 13 00:14:46 2014.

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It means God's wrath is being hurled down on them because they didn't do enough to stop gay marriage and abortion! Yes, that must be the answer! :-)

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by italianstallion on Mon Oct 13 14:42:53 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 13 12:06:03 2014.

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Yep, he can deny it all he wants, but the GOPers are stirring the pot to make political points.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by italianstallion on Mon Oct 13 14:43:20 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 13 12:07:17 2014.

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Ologadro's number.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by italianstallion on Mon Oct 13 14:44:15 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 13 12:07:29 2014.

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Haven't you noticed that Soros is not around much anymore?

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Oct 13 14:45:07 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by italianstallion on Mon Oct 13 14:42:53 2014.

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Oh and what might that political point be?

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 13 14:51:57 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by italianstallion on Mon Oct 13 14:43:20 2014.

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It's gonna stick :)

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Oct 13 14:57:31 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by 3-9 on Mon Oct 13 14:22:43 2014.

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Your smug and sarcastic remarks not withstanding, you are not even close to being on point. You and your liberal ilk fail to learn from history. Back when HIV was new and it was thought to be confined to the Gay Community it was a horrible disease but contained in that community. Then they found out that the IV drug users were not only at risk but as likely or more likely to catch the disease. Still it was contained in those communities and people felt safe. Then married men who were either bisexual or recreational IV drug users or women who associated with High risk people brought it home to their traditional marriage homes. Then infected women began passing it on to their new-borns and there you have an epidemic.

Now if you are so smug and short-sighted to think that the CDC or medical science knows all they need to about Ebola - about which groups are at risk - about how it's transmitted - about the exact moment when a person becomes contagious, you are fooling yourself. Now that the CDC has backed off on its' "Breech of Protocols" comment, we need to know a few more things.

1) How did this nurse catch the disease?
2) What about the 10 or 15 people she was in contact with before she was hospitalized
3) What about the 10-15 people each of them were in contact with
4) What about the 10-15 people each of them were in contact with

Of course, I doubt that you get the point but some others might.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Oct 13 15:14:05 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 13 00:14:46 2014.

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no medical care there SelkirkTMO
they only believe in god but no medical care

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Oct 13 15:16:29 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by Train Dude on Mon Oct 13 14:57:31 2014.

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No, in your paranoia you missed the point. HIV was an unknown disease - how long did it take to even identify the cause of AIDS, let alone the exact method of transmission? Ebola, OTOH, has been isolated and its method of transmission and incubation period are well known, AND they've been keeping tabs on all the people who came in contact with patient zero since well before the danger of her becoming contagious started. The CDC knows a lot more about Ebola from the start - about which groups are at risk, about how its transmitted, about when someone becomes contagious, your anti-government paranoia notwithstanding.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by italianstallion on Mon Oct 13 15:21:04 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by Train Dude on Mon Oct 13 14:57:31 2014.

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Rewriting history again, eh? It was an epidemic long before it started affecting non-gays, but nobody cared because those people were . . .well, you know, unspeakable. Only when it stated infecting "regular" people did Reagan and others notice or care.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Oct 13 15:25:18 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by 3-9 on Mon Oct 13 15:16:29 2014.

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"The CDC knows a lot more about Ebola from the start - about which groups are at risk, about how its transmitted, about when someone becomes contagious, your anti-government paranoia notwithstanding."

Yes and that is why with all this knowledge we now have an infected nurse along with who knows how many other people. And other than mentioning the CDC backing away from their previous statement, how do you justify alleging my "anti-government paranoia" . Is that the best you can do?


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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Oct 13 15:29:34 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by italianstallion on Mon Oct 13 15:21:04 2014.

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I guess you are having trouble reading, too. Except for the expected liberal politicizing the issue with the obligatory mention of Reagan, I stated essentially the same history as you.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by italianstallion on Mon Oct 13 15:32:53 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by Train Dude on Mon Oct 13 15:29:34 2014.

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You say "Then infected women began passing it on to their new-borns and there you have an epidemic."

I say, no, it was epidemic long before.
This is not essentially the same history, sorry.


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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Oct 13 15:34:42 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by italianstallion on Mon Oct 13 15:32:53 2014.

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That was sarcasm to make the point that no one cared until the disease went mainstream. Sorry if it was too subtle or not precise enough for you.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Oct 13 15:37:13 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by Train Dude on Mon Oct 13 15:25:18 2014.

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Yes and that is why with all this knowledge we now have an infected nurse along with who knows how many other people.

Because we're human and not machines? Maybe she did make a mistake or didn't follow the protocols initially, so she came in contact with the patient's body fluids? It's not like she was trained day in and day out with how to deal with Ebola patients. About your anti-government paranoia, maybe it has to do with your constant whining about how the CDC doesn't know squat or is trying to mislead us despite their job being to deal with infectious diseases, and grasping at weak analogies to justify it?


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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by italianstallion on Mon Oct 13 15:44:50 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by Train Dude on Mon Oct 13 15:34:42 2014.

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"sarcasm." The last refuge of dissemblers.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 13 16:32:20 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by train dude on Mon Oct 13 09:06:56 2014.

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Yep. Really sucks. LOL

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 13 16:55:47 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by 3-9 on Mon Oct 13 15:37:13 2014.

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One of the things noted so far about the hospital - with level 3 and higher, you're supposed to have a spotter as you take off your protective gear to make sure that nothing on the outside of any of it comes in contact with you. The nurse didn't have this "protocol" observed, and that's what the CDC director was talking about originally. That's how she likely got infected.

But hey ... gotta just sit back and respect the end of the world chorus and tell them what they want to hear - we're all gonna die, thanks Obama. :-\

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 13 17:16:06 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Oct 13 15:14:05 2014.

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Here's hoping Governor Goodhair notices that his state's medicals need some work.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Oct 13 17:51:38 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 13 17:16:06 2014.

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fat chance
i will never live in texasss !!
hell no

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