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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 20 00:23:45 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Sep 19 20:58:39 2014.

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True ... after all, lots of republicans in Texas. Fuggem. :)

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 20 00:24:49 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Sep 19 20:59:58 2014.

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Back in 1964, doctors would visit your home and treat you. Blue Cross was a not for profit as well. It worked fairly well. All of this nonsense came about when (wait for it) Ronnie Reagan pushed everybody into HMO's which pocketed the money and shafted everybody.

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 20 00:26:05 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Sep 19 20:23:49 2014.

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No, we exist regardless.

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 20 00:29:47 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Sep 19 20:20:42 2014.

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I sure hope it doesn't have a dog named "Spot" ... always giggled over how they have to "Cal" everything out there. :)

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by AlM on Sat Sep 20 06:23:37 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by italianstallion on Sat Sep 20 00:06:00 2014.

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His insurance isn't affected by ACA. The biggest effect on his cost is the percentage he is required to pay by his collective bargaining agreement.



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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by AlM on Sat Sep 20 06:25:54 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 20 00:26:05 2014.

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I sense bafflement on the way.


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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by Dave on Sat Sep 20 08:30:43 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Sep 19 20:20:42 2014.

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HMO or PPO?

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 20 09:36:10 2014, in response to Thank You, Obama, posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 18 22:41:21 2014.

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Youbama, mebama, webama, who cares? It's a black guy in a suit, let's just marvel at that.

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 20 09:57:15 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 20 00:22:53 2014.

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"Am I supposed to be impressed?"

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 20 09:58:10 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 20 00:23:45 2014.

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"Am I supposed to be impressed?"

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 20 09:58:48 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 20 00:18:55 2014.

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"Am I supposed to be impressed?"

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 20 10:09:46 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 20 00:24:49 2014.

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Interesting analogy. I remember my parents paying cash for doctor's visits. And insurance was only used for hospital stays, and insurance was known as hospitalization. Now answer the question. Yes, or no?

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 20 10:11:50 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by AlM on Sat Sep 20 06:23:37 2014.

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ALL INSURANCE IS AFFECTED BY THE UNAFORDABLE HEALTHCARE ACT!

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Sep 20 10:45:42 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 20 09:36:10 2014.

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Half-black, Spider-Racist.

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 20 10:59:42 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Sep 20 10:45:42 2014.

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Spider-Pig is not a racist. Liberal yes, racist no.

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Sep 20 11:36:11 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 20 10:59:42 2014.

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Yes he is. Anyone who embraces liberalism is for racism too.

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by bingbong on Sat Sep 20 11:52:56 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Sep 20 11:36:11 2014.

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Heh? Could you explain exactly how that works...or is this just another "everything on the planet is liberal to me"? The only racists I've ever known of were conservatives. That includes here.

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 20 12:07:38 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 20 00:29:47 2014.

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LOL !!

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 20 12:08:22 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by Dave on Sat Sep 20 08:30:43 2014.

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WTF !! ??
i would not have shit if i lived in TEXASSSSS
glad to live in california !

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 20 12:22:45 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 20 10:09:46 2014.

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Single payer wasn't an issue in 1964.

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 20 12:30:59 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Sep 20 11:36:11 2014.

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Whe I thinkabout it you may have a point. But I wouldn't call liberalism racism. I would call it self hatred of one's own race.

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 20 12:32:44 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 20 12:30:59 2014.

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Nah ... we should just get Olog a Youtube channel, dark glasses, some gin and record about 15 minutes. :)

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by Dave on Sat Sep 20 12:54:18 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 20 12:08:22 2014.

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Aren't you embarrassed to keep displaying your ignorance? You don't know the difference between a HMO and a PPO? Unless you're on Medicaid or Medicare virtually all other health insurance plans are either a HMO or PPO plan.

HMO stands for health maintenance organization.
PPO stands for preferred provider organization.

Both types of plans use a network of physicians, hospitals and other health care professionals to give you care. The difference between the two is the way you interact with those networks.

With an HMO plan, you pick one primary care physician. All your health care services go through that doctor. That means that you need a referral before you can see any other health care professional (except in an emergency). Visits to health care professionals outside of your network typically aren’t covered by your insurance.

PPO plans give you flexibility. You don’t need a primary care physician. You can go to any health care professional you want without a referral — inside or outside of your network. Staying inside your network means smaller co-pays and full coverage.

Premiums for HMO's are usually lower than for PPO's.

Medi-Cal is California's Medicaid program. Why are you on Medicaid? You must not be old enough for Medicare - you need to be 65 to be covered unless you are disabled.

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 20 12:56:52 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by Dave on Sat Sep 20 12:54:18 2014.

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again you are totally clueless
i live in a state that embraced obamacare
something i would not have in texasssss
you are so clue less !!
and you dont know my age either
lol
go back to sleep dave form texasssss

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Sep 20 13:10:50 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 20 12:30:59 2014.

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If you hate your own race, how can you love other races?

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by Dave on Sat Sep 20 14:33:11 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 20 12:56:52 2014.

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You are 60 or 61 years old.

California embracing Obamacare has nothing to do with whether a healthcare plan is a HMO or PPO, you ignoramus. Medi-Cal is a HMO.

If ignorance is bliss, you must sleep soundly.

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 20 14:38:37 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by Dave on Sat Sep 20 14:33:11 2014.

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no i am not 60
i am older than that
and you dont know how healthcare is handled here in california
with you texasss under educated self !!
lol
the one who is clueless is you dave from texass !!
lol

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by Dave on Sat Sep 20 15:06:38 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 20 14:38:37 2014.

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You are 65 years old and graduated from high school in 1970.

You admitted to being on Medicaid. Medi-Cal is a HMO Medicaid plan. What else is there to know?

BTW, did you ever find out why 10 years ago the FBI wanted to talk with you?

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by AlM on Sat Sep 20 15:19:17 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by Dave on Sat Sep 20 15:06:38 2014.

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You are 65 years old and graduated from high school in 1970.

That would imply he graduated at age 21, which would be very unusual.


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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 20 15:25:50 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by Dave on Sat Sep 20 15:06:38 2014.

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FBI ?
when ?
i am not 65 !!
man you are totally clueless !!
i am not on medicaid you idiot !!
man you have no idea
nothing !! typical texassss nut and fool


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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 20 15:26:32 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by AlM on Sat Sep 20 15:19:17 2014.

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that is not true either

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by Dave on Sat Sep 20 16:59:08 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 20 15:25:50 2014.

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You posted:

i have california medi-cal ''covered california'' !!

Perhaps you forgot about this?

Medi-Cal is California's Medicaid program.

"Covered California™ and the California Department of Health Care Services (DHCS) have partnered to offer a one-stop-shop online enrollment channel for millions of consumers to receive low-cost or no-cost health insurance.

Covered California's new private health insurance marketplace offers affordable coverage for residents previously uninsured. Millions are eligible for financial assistance to help pay for coverage. This assistance includes subsidies and low-cost or no-cost Medi-Cal. DHCS oversees Medi-Cal, the state's Medicaid health care program, which covers a number of medical services for children and adults with limited income and resources."

FBI ?
when ?


August 14, 2004? When you said you were a "AGE 55 USA BORN BLACK MAN"

Forgot about this too, Salaam? Do you really want to pull on this thread, Salaam? I'd rather not take you down this path. In fact, I won't. We're all friends here and I don't like where this is going. Maybe you weren't 55 in 2004 and you lied about that. That's okay, it doesn't matter.



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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 20 17:00:56 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by Dave on Sat Sep 20 16:59:08 2014.

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lies posted by you incorrect information mis information
more lied from dave from texassss



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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 20 17:03:41 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by Dave on Sat Sep 20 16:59:08 2014.

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by Dave on Sat Sep 20 17:06:39 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 20 17:00:56 2014.

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Whatever you say, Salaam. I won't post a copy of your 2004 post to a different group but everything I posted today about your being contacted by the FBI came from YOU.

BTW, your virulently anti-white website is still accessible.

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 20 17:07:27 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by Dave on Sat Sep 20 17:06:39 2014.

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dont act like you are my friend because you LIE and attack me all the time
dave from texassss !!


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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by Dave on Sat Sep 20 19:07:09 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 20 17:07:27 2014.

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I am your friend, Salaam. If I weren't I'd post the links to the information where you said you were being investigated by the FBI. I would post a link to your old virulently anti-white web site.

But I won't post those because I'm your friend. When I'm out in LA in January let's plan on having a beer or two, my treat.

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 20 19:48:23 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by Dave on Sat Sep 20 19:07:09 2014.

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 20 19:55:19 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by Dave on Sat Sep 20 19:07:09 2014.

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well i cant drink beer unless i am home because getting a DUI is not what i want to happen to me
they are vicious about anyone who drinks even one beer and drives
its because i would have to drive a car afterwards etc ...
instead going to starbucks would be great !!!!!
if you are coming to los angles there are trains to ride and photograph
do you want a tour of the LACMTA system here ?
you do have to buy a tap card and load it up
ok ? is that fair ?

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 20 19:59:59 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 20 19:48:23 2014.

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that was a good song ChicagoMotorman !!
i think she sang it well

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by italianstallion on Sat Sep 20 20:10:30 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 20 09:57:15 2014.

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No, you are supposed to be educated.

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by italianstallion on Sat Sep 20 20:10:59 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 20 10:11:50 2014.

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Not really.

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by italianstallion on Sat Sep 20 20:12:02 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Sep 20 10:45:42 2014.

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Guess your sarcasm meter was turned off.

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 20 20:19:34 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by italianstallion on Sat Sep 20 20:10:30 2014.

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I might not be educated like you, but unlike you, I have common sense.

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by AlM on Sat Sep 20 20:46:31 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 20 10:11:50 2014.

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No.

Who told you that?



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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by Dave on Sat Sep 20 22:08:12 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 20 19:55:19 2014.

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Won't have enough time for a tour; a coffee will have to suffice. I'll let you know when the time gets closer.

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 20 22:21:09 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by Dave on Sat Sep 20 22:08:12 2014.

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ok
thx

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by Nilet on Sun Sep 21 15:33:56 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 19 12:04:59 2014.

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. . . are vindicated, because that is the very thing they said would happen

So, are you blind, deaf, and stupid?

The right has been saying a free-market health care system would make everything perfect. We have a free-market health care system. Guess what? Shit's fuct.

The left, on the other hand, is vindicated as we've been predicting for years that relying on the "free market" for health care would be a profit-driven disaster, but I wouldn't expect you and your fellow mental defectives to be able to figure that out.

... but stupes like you refuse to listen.

Oh, riiiight. Your fellow conservatives wrote the ACA and I've been warning that it would fail from the outset but I'm the one who refused to listen to the warnings. Dude, I was giving the warnings!

Those "on the right" want a free-market healthcare system.

They got one. It failed. Next plan?

You may now join the line on the extreme right to issue your apology.

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by Nilet on Sun Sep 21 15:34:00 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 19 12:10:06 2014.

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How? Explain the economics.

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Re: Thank You, Obama

Posted by Nilet on Sun Sep 21 15:34:03 2014, in response to Re: Thank You, Obama, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 19 09:01:01 2014.

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(1) I can't afford it.

(2) I paid for the insurance, and they refuse to give me what I paid for but I'm the one who needs to "take responsibility" and just pay a second time? I wish you'd mentioned this earlier— I'd have kept your camera and told you to "take some responsibility for your damn self and just lay out the money to buy another one."

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