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Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK
Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Sep 19 01:42:37 2014 fiogf49gjkf0d http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/19/us-scotland-independence-idUSKBN0HB0O920140919 Above link will continue to modify until the final results, but bedtime for me anyhoo ... CURRENT LEDE AS OF THIS TIME! (Reuters) - Scotland has chosen to stay in the United Kingdom, spurning independence in a historic referendum that had worried allies and investors, results showed on Friday with more than two thirds of the vote declared. Scotland's final verdict on the union should be clear within two hours. Supporters of the United Kingdom have won 54 percent of the vote, according to Reuters calculations, and that share could climb. The independence camp conceded that it had come up short. "Like thousands of others across the country I've put my heart and soul into this campaign and there is a real sense of disappointment that we've fallen narrowly short of securing a yes vote," Scottish Nationalist Party deputy leader Nicola Sturgeon said. "It looks as if it's not quite been enough and that's deeply disappointing," Sturgeon told the BBC. Sterling rose sharply while unionist campaigners clapped, cheered and poured drinks as results were announced. Queen Elizabeth and Prime Minister David Cameron were expected to make statements later. Though the nationalists won Scotland's biggest city, Glasgow, they failed to meet expectations in a clutch of other constituencies. The campaign for independence had galvanized this country of 5.3 million but also divided friends and families from the remote Scottish islands of the Atlantic to the tough city estates of Glasgow. Breaking apart the United Kingdom has worried allies, investors and the entire British elite whose leaders rushed late in the campaign to check what opinion polls showed was a surge in support for independence. Seeking to tap into a cocktail of historical rivalry, opposing political tastes and a perception that London has mismanaged Scotland, nationalists say Scots, not London, should rule Scotland to build a wealthier and fairer country. Unionists had warned independence would usher in financial, economic and political uncertainty and diminish the UK's standing in the world. They have warned that Scotland would not keep the pound as part of a formal currency union. Beyond the money and power, the referendum has provoked deep passions in Scotland, drawn in many voters who ignore traditional political campaigns and underscored what London politicians admit is a need for wider constitutional change. A UNITED KINGDOM? Scots were asked to answer "Yes" or "No" to the question: "Should Scotland be an independent country?". Voters lined up at polling stations across Scotland to vote with 4.28 million voters, or 97 percent of the electorate, registered to vote. Turnout hit a record high. "It seems to me that we are going to have a 'No' majority in this referendum," Danny Alexander, the Scottish-born Chief Secretary to the Treasury, told Reuters. "That's great news for Scotland and for the United Kingdom, but also just a start to the serious task to make sure that Scotland gets the additional power that it needs," said Alexander, a Liberal Democrat with a Scottish constituency. All but two opinion polls - in August 2013 and August 2014 - showed unionists in the lead but a dramatic surge in nationalist support from mid-August prompted Britain to promise more powers to Scotland. That has angered some English lawmakers in Westminster and British leaders have accepted that even if Scotland votes to keep the union, the United Kingdom's structure will have to change. Cameron, who acknowledged his unpopularity in Scotland during the campaign, has drawn criticism for both putting the fate of the United Kingdom on the line and then rushing to promise more powers before the vote. Cameron was largely absent from the campaign, leaving former Prime Minister Gordon Brown to lead the unionist battle cry. The prospect of breaking up the world's sixth-largest economy and a permanent member of the United Nations Security Council, has stoked concern in the United States and Europe. The United States has made clear it wants the United Kingdom, it main ally in Europe, to remain together. (Additional reporting Lindsay Marnoch; writing by Guy Faulconbridge. Editing by Mike Peacock)
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Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK
Posted by Nilet* on Fri Sep 19 01:50:06 2014, in response to Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Sep 19 01:42:37 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Time for us to have a vote. (_) New York remains part of the United States. (_) New York becomes an independent country. (_) New York joins Canada.
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Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Fri Sep 19 01:56:57 2014, in response to Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK, posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 19 01:50:06 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d (X) New York joins Canada! But they won't deal if they have to take anything south of Kingston or west of Syracuse. :)
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Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK
Posted by Rockparkman* on Fri Sep 19 05:26:10 2014, in response to Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Sep 19 01:56:57 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Which Kingston ? I' d be surprised if they want anything south of the Kingston off Highway 401
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Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK
Posted by Dutchrailnut* on Fri Sep 19 08:02:54 2014, in response to Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Sep 19 01:42:37 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Now can we get referendum vote to give Texas back to Mexico ;-)
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Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK
Posted by Nilet* on Fri Sep 19 08:19:04 2014, in response to Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Sep 19 01:56:57 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d (_) New York remains part of the United States. (_) New York becomes an independent country. (X) New York joins Canada. Randy Credico for MP!
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Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK
Posted by Dan Lawrence* on Fri Sep 19 09:38:22 2014, in response to Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK, posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 19 08:19:04 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d NO!!!!!!!! You are trying to destroy the ?United States!!!!!
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Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK
Posted by Dan Lawrence* on Fri Sep 19 09:38:44 2014, in response to Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK, posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 19 08:19:04 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d NO!!!!!!!! You are trying to destroy the United States!!!!!
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Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK
Posted by FYBklyn1959* on Fri Sep 19 09:50:02 2014, in response to Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK, posted by Dutchrailnut on Fri Sep 19 08:02:54 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d +1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
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Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Fri Sep 19 11:58:48 2014, in response to Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK, posted by Rockparkman on Fri Sep 19 05:26:10 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Oh ... neglected to mention. We'd be speaking French. :)
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Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Fri Sep 19 12:02:56 2014, in response to Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK, posted by Dutchrailnut on Fri Sep 19 08:02:54 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d I'm down with that. :)
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Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Fri Sep 19 12:05:22 2014, in response to Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK, posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 19 08:19:04 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Heh. I still think Rob Ford would have the edge. :)
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Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Fri Sep 19 12:06:15 2014, in response to Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK, posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Sep 19 09:38:22 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Nah ... upstate has been feeling a lot like Scotland lately.
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Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK
Posted by Olog-hai* on Fri Sep 19 12:21:18 2014, in response to Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Sep 19 12:06:15 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Socialist, you mean?
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Alex Salmond resigns (Results are pretty much in now—Scotland remains in UK)
Posted by Olog-hai* on Fri Sep 19 12:24:50 2014, in response to Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Sep 19 01:42:37 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Manchester Guardian Alex Salmond resigns as first minister after Scotland rejects independence Leader of the Scottish National party says he will stand down in November when a new leader of the party will be chosen Severin Carrell and agencies Friday 19 September 2014 11.34 EDT Alex Salmond has said he will stand down as Scotland's first minister and Scottish National party leader after failing to secure a majority for independence in Thursday's referendum. He told a press conference in his official residence of Bute House that he would stand down as first minister in November when a new SNP leader will be chosen. Salmond said he had made the decision in the morning after the referendum result emerged: "For me right now, there is a decision as to who is best placed to lead this process forward politically. I believe that in this new exciting situation, redolent with possibility, party, parliament and country would benefit from new leadership." He said he would not accept the SNP's nomination to be a candidate for leader at the party's annual conference in Perth in November, allowing a new party leader to be elected. Given the SNP's majority in the Scottish parliament, the new leader will also become first minister. The SNP deputy leader, Nicola Sturgeon, is widely seen as the most likely successor to the long-serving Salmond. Salmond added that the most important thing to the independence cause was not about who is first minister of Scotland. Aged 59, Salmond has had two spells of ten years leading the SNP. He said: "I think that's a reasonable spell of service, and I think there is an aspect that you have to understand and recognize when it is time to give someone else a chance to move that forward." Thursday's Scottish independence referendum saw the No campaign fronted by Alistair Darling win 55.3% of the vote, compared to 44.7% for Yes.
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Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Fri Sep 19 12:44:19 2014, in response to Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 19 12:21:18 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d No, that would be Vermont. Try to keep up.
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Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK
Posted by bingbong* on Fri Sep 19 15:16:58 2014, in response to Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK, posted by Dutchrailnut on Fri Sep 19 08:02:54 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Sounds like a plan.
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Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK
Posted by SUBWAYMAN* on Fri Sep 19 19:41:40 2014, in response to Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK, posted by Dutchrailnut on Fri Sep 19 08:02:54 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Sounds like a good idea. :)
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Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK
Posted by FtGreeneG* on Fri Sep 19 19:45:19 2014, in response to Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK, posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 19 08:19:04 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d All the dunkin donuts will turn to Tim Hortons and start using the metric system...lol
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Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Sat Sep 20 00:28:58 2014, in response to Re: Results are pretty much in now - Scotland remains in UK, posted by FtGreeneG on Fri Sep 19 19:45:19 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Worse ... with the latest news, they'll turn into Burger Queens and sell you ice cream on a hoagie bun. :)
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