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Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case

Posted by Dand124 on Tue Sep 16 19:25:41 2014

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http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/09/16/3568063/hobby-lobby-child-labor/

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Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case

Posted by AlM on Tue Sep 16 19:32:15 2014, in response to Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case, posted by Dand124 on Tue Sep 16 19:25:41 2014.

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I'm sure the Supreme Court will figure out a way to squirm out of this one, but they're going to make a mess of the whole issue of religious freedom.



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Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case

Posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 16 19:40:45 2014, in response to Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case, posted by AlM on Tue Sep 16 19:32:15 2014.

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"Hobby lobby" and "Kelo" are the worst decisions I've ever seen
IMNSHO

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Fred

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Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case

Posted by Nilet on Tue Sep 16 19:45:56 2014, in response to Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case, posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 16 19:40:45 2014.

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Nah, Citizens United was worse.

As was gutting the Voting Rights Act.

And Bush v. Gore is right up there too.

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Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case

Posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 16 20:03:06 2014, in response to Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case, posted by Nilet on Tue Sep 16 19:45:56 2014.

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Those are quite bad, yes, but IMO the other 2 are worse. Hobby Lobby will bite us forever as people use religion to advance their agendas. Kelo stuck a knife in the back of property rights.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case

Posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 16 20:03:07 2014, in response to Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case, posted by Nilet on Tue Sep 16 19:45:56 2014.

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Those are quite bad, yes, but IMO the other 2 are worse. Hobby Lobby will bite us forever as people use religion to advance their agendas. Kelo stuck a knife in the back of property rights.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case

Posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 16 20:03:51 2014, in response to Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case, posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 16 20:03:07 2014.

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Sux...I did this double post from my laptop!

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case

Posted by Nilet on Tue Sep 16 20:07:48 2014, in response to Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case, posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 16 20:03:07 2014.

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Everything is interconnected— fighting back religious agendas and defending property rights becomes a lot more difficult when you can't vote freely or at all.

And if Bush hadn't been allowed to usurp the presidency, we might not have had any of the other four decisions in the first place.

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Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 16 20:10:51 2014, in response to Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case, posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 16 20:03:06 2014.

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You're welcome to join our church of the inverted bathtub ... means you'll never have to pay tolls again. :)

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Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 16 20:11:29 2014, in response to Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case, posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 16 20:03:51 2014.

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No worries! Just spun the tub and your post is forgiven. :)

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Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case

Posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 16 20:19:00 2014, in response to Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 16 20:11:29 2014.

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Fred

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Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 16 20:24:04 2014, in response to Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case, posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 16 20:19:00 2014.

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Yes! That's a sacrament. And the sacrament is available from our church 24/7 even when a prefect is not available! Just drive around the side!



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Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case

Posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 16 20:39:43 2014, in response to Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 16 20:24:04 2014.

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Fred

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Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 16 20:41:23 2014, in response to Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case, posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 16 20:39:43 2014.

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Delivery costs extra. :)

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Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case

Posted by Dave on Tue Sep 16 21:07:15 2014, in response to Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case, posted by Dand124 on Tue Sep 16 19:25:41 2014.

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The law of unintended consequences strikes again!

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Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case

Posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 16 21:14:02 2014, in response to Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 16 20:41:23 2014.

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It's not delivery it's deblasio :)

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case

Posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 16 21:14:51 2014, in response to Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 16 20:10:51 2014.

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Upside down Kohler? you betcha :)

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case

Posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 16 21:15:53 2014, in response to Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case, posted by Nilet on Tue Sep 16 20:07:48 2014.

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It's a lattice of coincidence. I see your point.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 16 21:39:31 2014, in response to Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case, posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 16 21:14:51 2014.

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Nah ... it's an American Standard. We wanted to KEEP the Kohler. :)

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Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 16 21:40:32 2014, in response to Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case, posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 16 21:14:02 2014.

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Ah! Then let me go get you more cheese. :)

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Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 16 23:08:26 2014, in response to Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case, posted by Dave on Tue Sep 16 21:07:15 2014.

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Or TP is making shit up again.

In fairness, Judge Sam’s reasoning may not prevent the government from seeking testimony from someone like Steed if such testimony were clearly the only way to pursue the investigation. Rather, Sam claims that the government “failed to show that forcing Mr. Steed to answer the questions offensive to his sincerely held religious beliefs is the least restrictive means to advance any compelling interest it may have.” The judge then lists several other people the government could seek testimony from, including men and women employed by the pecan plantation where the children were allegedly sent to work. . . .
. . . blah blah blah.

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Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case

Posted by Nilet on Wed Sep 17 03:00:49 2014, in response to Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case, posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 16 21:15:53 2014.

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Whenever someone asks me what issue I consider "most" important, I always have to pause to try and figure out which ones would be less severe, easier to deal with, or nonexistent were it not for other ones.

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Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 17 10:35:56 2014, in response to Re: Judge: Hobby Lobby Decision Means Polygamous Sect Member Can Refuse To Testify In Child Labor Case, posted by Nilet on Tue Sep 16 20:07:48 2014.

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IAWTP! The outcome of the 2000 election always makes me sad.

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