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World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Aug 30 23:29:11 2014

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A little diversion from the racism ...

World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists

New Zealand researchers have traced every human language — from English to Mandarin — back to an ancestral language spoken in Africa 50,000 to 70,000 years ago.

Scientists say they have traced the world's 6,000 modern languages — from English to Mandarin — back to a single "mother tongue," an ancestral language spoken in Africa 50,000 to 70,000 years ago.

New research, published in the journal Science, suggests this single ancient language resulted in human civilization — a Diaspora — as well as advances in art and hunting tool technology, and laid the groundwork for all the world's cultures.

The research, by Quentin Atkinson from the University of Auckland in New Zealand, also found that speech evolved far earlier than previously thought. And the findings implied, though did not prove, that modern language originated only once, an issue of controversy among linguists, according to the New York Times.

Before Atkinson came up with the evidence for a single African origin of language, some scientists had argued that language evolved independently in different parts of the world.

Atkinson found that the first populations migrating from Africa laid the groundwork for all the world's cultures by taking their single language with them. "It was the catalyst that spurred the human expansion that we all are a product of," Atkinson said, the Wall Street Journal reported.

Atkinson traced the number distinct sounds, or phonemes — consonants, vowels and tones — in 504 world languages, finding compelling evidence that they can be traced back to a long-forgotten dialect spoken by our Stone Age ancestors, according to the Daily Mail.

Atkinson also hypothesized that languages with the most sounds would be the oldest, while those spoken by smaller breakaway groups would utilize fewer sounds as variation and complexity diminished.

The study found that some of the click-using languages of Africa have more than 100 phonemes, or sounds, whereas Hawaiian, toward the far end of the human migration route out of Africa, has only 13, the Times reported. English has about 45 phonemes.

The phoneme pattern mirrors the pattern of human genetic diversity as humans spread across the globe from sub-Saharan Africa around 70,000 years ago.

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Posted by David Fairthorne on Sun Aug 31 02:00:28 2014, in response to World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Aug 30 23:29:11 2014.

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"new research suggests"

"the findings implied, though did not prove"

In the absence of time-travel, all this must be highly speculative.


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Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 31 02:07:14 2014, in response to Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists, posted by David Fairthorne on Sun Aug 31 02:00:28 2014.

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Scientists are a whole lot more careful in their choice of words than Fox News or Canada Free Press. Still thought it was an interesting article, sure beats the "fuck you" ongoing here lately. :)

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Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 31 02:11:39 2014, in response to Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 31 02:07:14 2014.

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BTW: Just between you and I, thanks for the proper skepticism. I primarily posted that as bait for the usual suspects, I'm expecting to see some interesting results from the original post, let's see where it goes. Didn't want to spoil it by saying anything else at the moment. :)

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Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sun Aug 31 14:15:32 2014, in response to Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 31 02:07:14 2014.

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It did say "according to the Daily Mail". Which has good puzzles and is less irritating than many papers, but is indubitably a right-wing tabloid...

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Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 31 14:21:41 2014, in response to Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists, posted by kew gardens teleport on Sun Aug 31 14:15:32 2014.

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False. "Right-wing tabloids" do not print anti-Israel-propaganda stories as the Daily Wail has of late.

Now if you were to say "pro-Tory tabloid", you'd be correct. And the "Conservative Party" is a misnomer these days, since in some respects that party has gone left of Labour.

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Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Aug 31 14:28:46 2014, in response to World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Aug 30 23:29:11 2014.

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Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Aug 31 14:29:17 2014, in response to Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 31 02:07:14 2014.

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Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Aug 31 14:29:41 2014, in response to Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 31 02:11:39 2014.

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Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 31 14:33:28 2014, in response to Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists, posted by David Fairthorne on Sun Aug 31 02:00:28 2014.

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Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 31 14:33:38 2014, in response to World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Aug 30 23:29:11 2014.

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A little diversion from the racism

I agree; the lefties have been way too racist of late.

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Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists

Posted by orange blossom special on Sun Aug 31 14:49:10 2014, in response to Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 31 14:33:38 2014.

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Yea, the racists lefties ONLY think of black when they see the word African!

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Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 31 15:10:29 2014, in response to Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Aug 31 14:29:41 2014.

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Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Aug 31 16:48:36 2014, in response to Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 31 15:10:29 2014.

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Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 31 18:02:06 2014, in response to Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists, posted by kew gardens teleport on Sun Aug 31 14:15:32 2014.

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My buddy in Lancashire refers to it as the "Daily Wail" because they're always whining about something. :)

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Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists

Posted by AlM on Sun Aug 31 18:43:07 2014, in response to Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 31 18:02:06 2014.

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Other Brits refer to it as the Daily Fail because of its superb reputation for accuracy. :)

Classic example about a week ago: climber cheats death when failing 100 feet at St. Mary's Glacier in Glacier National Park, MT.

I thought, that's strange. I was just at Glacier National Park. There's a town of St. Mary's, but I don't recall a St. Mary's Glacier.

Indeed, it all took place at St. Mary's Glacier near Idaho Springs, CO.







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Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 31 18:51:50 2014, in response to Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 31 18:43:07 2014.

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Heh. I'm always amused when I see some of our folks here using them as "proff" but then again, Drudge, Faux News and Canada Free Press so I guess it all fits nicely. :)

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Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 31 19:29:42 2014, in response to Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Aug 31 16:48:36 2014.

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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 31 19:34:05 2014, in response to Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Aug 31 14:29:17 2014.

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Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Aug 31 19:39:42 2014, in response to Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 31 19:34:05 2014.

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Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 31 19:40:26 2014, in response to Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Aug 31 19:39:42 2014.

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Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Aug 31 19:50:24 2014, in response to Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 31 18:02:06 2014.

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OK, The New York Slimes.

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Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Aug 31 19:51:02 2014, in response to Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 31 18:51:50 2014.

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Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Aug 31 19:51:34 2014, in response to Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 31 19:40:26 2014.

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Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 31 19:54:15 2014, in response to Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Aug 31 19:51:34 2014.

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Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists

Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Aug 31 22:35:49 2014, in response to World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Aug 30 23:29:11 2014.

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If we all came from one area and spoke one language, 70,000 years ago, how come there are so many different races of people?

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Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 31 22:50:01 2014, in response to Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists, posted by Elkeeper on Sun Aug 31 22:35:49 2014.

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Environment? Some bible thumpers would want to have a word with you. :)

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Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 31 23:43:53 2014, in response to Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists, posted by Elkeeper on Sun Aug 31 22:35:49 2014.

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You believe that humans come from alternate origins based on race?

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Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Sep 1 01:01:49 2014, in response to Re: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue: scientists, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 31 23:43:53 2014.

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