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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 29 10:17:11 2014, in response to obama Makes His Move, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 29 09:24:52 2014. So where's Congress on this? The Senate passed an immigration bill, all it needs is a house vote.If they won't do it, they have themselves to blame.0 |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jul 29 10:24:51 2014, in response to obama Makes His Move, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 29 09:24:52 2014. The man occupying the White House is the President of the United States and should be addressed as such, regardless of if you agree with his politics or not. Second, what you wrote is nowhere in the article. This poses an interesting wedge issue and I am not sure how it will play out. Something like this could either cement Republican opposition to the President or hopelessly divide their base. By forcing Republicans to either come out in support or opposition to executive order(s) issued by the Presidents, President Obama forces the Republicans into the uneviable position of forever marginalizing themselves in the Latino community, perhaps the fastest growing population of the United States especially in states like Texas, Colorado, Nevada, Arizona and New Mexico |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 29 10:25:34 2014, in response to Re: Obama Makes His Move, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 29 10:17:11 2014. An immigration bill that has amnesty? We don't need no so-called immigration bill. We need immigration enforcement. We need to enforce our current immigration laws. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 29 10:26:51 2014, in response to Re: obama Makes His Move, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jul 29 10:24:51 2014. Sorry, I cannot respect someone who doesn't respect me. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jul 29 10:43:06 2014, in response to Re: obama Makes His Move, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 29 10:26:51 2014. I felt the same way about George W. Bush but I still called him President |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 29 10:55:15 2014, in response to Re: Obama Makes His Move, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 29 10:25:34 2014. Guess you didn't see it like. Ronnyraygun did. Better they're here paying taxes than having to spend for ejudicating millions of deportations. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jul 29 10:58:13 2014, in response to Re: Obama Makes His Move, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 29 10:55:15 2014. But if we deport them like they should be then the jobs will go to Americans making at least minimum wage versus illegals getting paid less under the table and there will be MORE tax revenue |
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Posted by WayneJay on Tue Jul 29 10:58:39 2014, in response to Re: obama Makes His Move, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jul 29 10:43:06 2014. Exactly! Not to mention, I this behavior of deliberately ignoring capitalization rules with President Obama's name is simply infantile. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 29 11:04:42 2014, in response to Re: obama Makes His Move, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jul 29 10:43:06 2014. But you don't feel the same way about obama that you do George W? |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jul 29 11:05:28 2014, in response to Re: obama Makes His Move, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 29 11:04:42 2014. On some issues yes, some issues no. There has been no President in my lifetime that I have agreed with or disagreed with 100% |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jul 29 11:06:15 2014, in response to Re: obama Makes His Move, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 29 11:04:42 2014. Just to clarify I felt the same way about George W. Bush as you do about Barack Obama |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 29 11:06:30 2014, in response to Re: Obama Makes His Move, posted by WayneJay on Tue Jul 29 10:58:39 2014. And we're talking about a President that won two elections with a majority. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Tue Jul 29 11:08:27 2014, in response to Re: obama Makes His Move, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jul 29 11:06:15 2014. Well said, and I feel the same as you. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 29 15:21:05 2014, in response to Re: Obama Makes His Move, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jul 29 10:58:13 2014. So why then are't Americans already working those jobs? These guys are roofers, carpenters,landscapers, etc. they make more than miimum wae already. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 29 15:24:33 2014, in response to Re: Obama Makes His Move, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 29 15:21:05 2014. Because Americans have a higher reservation wage for those jobs. This country is better off with a more constrained supply of unskilled labor. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jul 29 15:36:41 2014, in response to Re: Obama Makes His Move, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 29 15:21:05 2014. Because the illegals will do it for less, will accept no benefits and will take it in cash under the table. Not to mention because out of fear of being deported they are less likely to report work rule violations |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Jul 29 16:52:09 2014, in response to obama Makes His Move, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 29 09:24:52 2014. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 29 18:14:15 2014, in response to Re: obama Makes His Move, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 29 10:26:51 2014. Like the republican party as a whole? The don't like you...union, pension, early retirement, urban. They want to take that all away from you. They're seeing that the younger workers will never see the same secure retirement you have.Think about it. Ou may want to choose your friends more wisely. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 29 18:58:53 2014, in response to Re: Obama Makes His Move, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jul 29 15:36:41 2014. So there you have it. The solution is to put a serious restraint on the people employing these illegals. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Jul 29 19:07:22 2014, in response to Re: Obama Makes His Move, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 29 18:58:53 2014. IAWTP |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Jul 29 22:07:45 2014, in response to Re: Obama Makes His Move, posted by WayneJay on Tue Jul 29 10:58:39 2014. Once I see a President's name spelled in lowercase in an obvious spite move, or see some mutation of his name like obummer or Shrub or Klinton, I pretty much give up on there being an adult behind the screen and there isn't fertile ground for real discussion.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jul 29 22:11:50 2014, in response to obama Makes His Move, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 29 09:24:52 2014. Your article mentions nothing that you said, stop fear mongering, stop lying, and respect your ELECTED leader. You anti-american attitude is disgusting. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sat Aug 2 19:56:49 2014, in response to obama Makes His Move, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 29 09:24:52 2014. Hold up.You think that allowing people to have jobs is "morally equivalent" to mass murder? You're mentally defective. |
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