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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 24 08:59:42 2014 First they profiled Patterson because he was black, then they beat him within an inch of his life because he was gay, in front of a busload of witnesses, yet it took the NYPD four months to arrest anybody, then no hate crimes charges are filed??? (I have been told, repeatedly, that former Commissioner Ray Kelly, who plans to run for higher office one day, deliberately put this case on the back burner, knowing he'll need the support of the Satmar sect when he throws his hat into the ring. Of course, this is apocryphal, but how else to explain the delay in a case with dozens of witnesses AND photographs of the suspects? Politics are something else!)Arrests Made In December Gay-Bashing In Brooklyn By Nathan James The NYPD has arrested five young Hasidic men in connection with a vicious gay-bashing of a young fashion-design student in Brooklyn last December, detectives announced yesterday. The attack, which left 22-year-old Taj Patterson, a gay black man, with severe injuries including a fractured eye socket, was witnessed by scores of onlookers, who described the assailants as members of the Shomrim Patrol, an Orthodox Jewish neighborhood-watch group. Patterson, who was returning to his Fort Greene home from a local subway station, was set upon by "at least a dozen" attackers, and thrown to the ground, stomped, and punched. Patterson and witnesses said the suspects, Aharon Hollender, 28, Abraham Winkler, 39, Mayer Herskovic, 21, Pinchas Braver, 19, and Joseph Fried, 25, yelled anti-gay slurs as they beat their victim, and several Shomrim members, identifiable by the uniform jackets they wore, actively tried to prevent onlookers from photographing them or their vehicles during the Flushing Avenue assault. Brooklyn DA Kenneth Thompson, who charged the suspects with gang assault and other offenses, but not hate crimes, said, "We simply cannot allow anyone walking on the streets of Brooklyn to be knocked to the ground, stomped and brutally beaten,” adding that at least two of the men, Winkler and Hollander, were confirmed to be members of Shomrim. "I was kicked in the face," Patterson recalled, "and they were screaming 'stay down, f----t, stay the f--- down' as they beat me." The victim sustained head trauma, bruises, and a torn retina in addition to the fractured eye socket. A furious NYPD commissioner Bill Bratton decried the incident, saying, "These indictments send a clear message that acts of vigilantism are unacceptable and cannot be condoned by the NYPD." The suspects were allegedly looking for vandals in the area, a report of which was unfounded. They stopped Patterson anyway, police sources said. The arrests ended a four-month investigation into the attack, which sent shock waves of outrage across the city, which has been plagued by a rash of gay-bashings over the past year, including two homicides. All five of the suspects arraigned yesterday posted bail in amounts ranging from $25,000 to $50,000, pending trial. Assistant DA Charles Guria identified Herskovic as the ringleader, and said all the defendants could face up to 25 years behind bars if convicted. Meanwhile, Patterson continues a difficult recovery from what his doctors say could be "permanent" injuries. Officials of the Shomrim Patrol declined comment on the case, when reached by GBM News. |
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Posted by DAnD124 on Thu Apr 24 09:22:18 2014, in response to Five Hasodic Men Arrested In December Gay-Bashing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 24 08:59:42 2014. ? (I have been told, repeatedly, that former Commissioner Ray Kelly, who plans to run for higher office one day, deliberately put this case on the back burner, knowing he'll need the support of the Satmar sect when he throws his hat into the ring.are you claiming jews control the government? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 24 09:39:49 2014, in response to Five Hasodic Men Arrested In December Gay-Bashing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 24 08:59:42 2014. This is going to get worse as more and more gentrifiers continue to pour into the former Hasidic neighborhood. It's somewhat similar to what is happening with the poorer residents in Bushwick being "replaced" by the hipsters, gays, and others now pouring into the neighborhoods. I think a white gay guy was brutally beaten at the Morgan Ave station a couple years ago to by a group of Black men.Add religious extremists to the mix, and even more problems. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 24 09:40:34 2014, in response to Re: Five Hasodic Men Arrested In December Gay-Bashing, posted by DAnD124 on Thu Apr 24 09:22:18 2014. Well, to his credit, he didn't actually put that OPINION part into his actual article. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 24 10:04:08 2014, in response to Five Hasodic Men Arrested In December Gay-Bashing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 24 08:59:42 2014. I may have missed it but did you apologize and admit you were completely wrong and also admit that I was completely correct about that Mississippi law? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 24 12:19:24 2014, in response to Re: Five Hasodic Men Arrested In December Gay-Bashing, posted by DAnD124 on Thu Apr 24 09:22:18 2014. No, I'm saying that in NYC, the Hasidic community enjoys a lot of political influence, largely because they are known make big PAC donations and can be reliably counted in to vote in every election, at every level. In that, I wish some other groups were as politically aware as the Hasidic community is. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 24 12:29:05 2014, in response to Re: Five Hasodic Men Arrested In December Gay-Bashing, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 24 09:40:34 2014. Because it's not my opinion. I'm not saying Jews (or the Hasidic branch of Judaism) "controls the government", but in NYC, the Hasidic community DOES enjoy a great deal of political influence, for reasons I spelled out in another post in this thread.Kelly is keenly aware of the direction the political winds blow, and he didn't want to alienate a significant portion of his likely constituency. That's not so much an opinion, as it is the likely reality. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 24 14:08:02 2014, in response to Re: Five Hasodic Men Arrested In December Gay-Bashing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 24 12:29:05 2014. You seem to have somehow missed my response to you in this thread. |
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Posted by rkba on Thu Apr 24 14:14:51 2014, in response to Re: Five Hasodic Men Arrested In December Gay-Bashing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 24 12:29:05 2014. Even JZ gets it.While just about anyone can make the wheels spin, some people make the wheels spin as fast as they want. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Apr 24 14:45:44 2014, in response to Re: Five Hasodic Men Arrested In December Gay-Bashing, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 24 10:04:08 2014. What on Earth are you babbling about yet again? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Apr 24 14:47:02 2014, in response to Re: Five Hasidic Men Arrested In December Gay-Bashing, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 24 09:39:49 2014. The question is why is there a need for "protection squads?" Brings up the Zimmerman case as clear as day here. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 24 15:39:24 2014, in response to Re: Five Hasodic Men Arrested In December Gay-Bashing, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 24 10:04:08 2014. No, I won't apologize or admit anything. You are not an attorney, judge, or legal expert of any kind, and are therefore not qualified to make any kind of assertion on how the new law will be applied or enforced, once it goes into effect. History, however, tells us that it's not outside the realm.of possibility that someone could use the law as a defense to an act of violence. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 24 15:58:34 2014, in response to Re: Five Hasodic Men Arrested In December Gay-Bashing, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 24 15:39:24 2014. I made the same argument he did. I agree with him completely. I don't expect any apology as you have not wronged me personally, but I still say your assertion was wrong. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Apr 24 16:09:37 2014, in response to Re: Five Hasodic Men Arrested In December Gay-Bashing, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 24 14:08:02 2014. Maybe he just elected to ignore you. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 24 17:34:58 2014, in response to Re: Five Hasodic Men Arrested In December Gay-Bashing, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 24 15:58:34 2014. Thank you. And I will have to look back in the original thread to see if I misused the word apologize; I suspect that I may have. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 24 17:36:28 2014, in response to Re: Five Hasodic Men Arrested In December Gay-Bashing, posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Apr 24 14:45:44 2014. Don't sweat it. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 24 17:37:19 2014, in response to Re: Five Hasidic Men Arrested In December Gay-Bashing, posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Apr 24 14:47:02 2014. If you have that question then why not ask them? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 25 07:01:34 2014, in response to Re: Five Hasodic Men Arrested In December Gay-Bashing, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Apr 24 16:09:37 2014. You'd be wrong. As usual. |
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