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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 23 16:08:22 2014, in response to Re: High court upholds Mich affirmative action ban, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 23 14:37:44 2014. In a perfect world....yes, but how many people haven't gotten a job based on "who they know", who their father knows, who their mother's friend knows, and so fort."Someone's success in life should be based on personal abilities" looks great on paper, but unfortunately that's not the way it's done. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 23 16:14:40 2014, in response to Re: High court upholds Mich affirmative action ban, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 23 15:45:52 2014. That;s great, but Al asked for a "simple answer", and that's all the info he gave for a "simple" response. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 23 16:15:13 2014, in response to Re: High court upholds Mich affirmative action ban, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 23 15:46:58 2014. Of course, but they STILL have to come up with the money. That isn't always possible. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 23 16:17:00 2014, in response to Re: High court upholds Mich affirmative action ban, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 23 15:49:32 2014. No, but she was.Are you going to turn down any "inheritance" whether it be money, a house, or a just a beautiful vase (fill in any blank) you get from your mom and dad when they unfortunately (but eventually for all of us) pass on? What makes you deserve their "fortune" any more than anyone else? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 23 16:18:12 2014, in response to Re: High court upholds Mich affirmative action ban, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 23 16:06:22 2014. Why should someone who unfortunately had disadvantages have any more right than someone else that was lucky enough not to have those disadvantages? |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 23 16:28:10 2014, in response to Re: High court upholds Mich affirmative action ban, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 23 16:18:12 2014. Because government should try to give people a hand where it can do it effectively.Same reason we don't have the same taxation system that France had under Louis XVI or that Somalia has now. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 23 16:44:56 2014, in response to Re: High court upholds Mich affirmative action ban, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 23 16:05:14 2014. And that's why it's unfair. But unlike connections, there is absolutely no way one can change one's legacy for the better. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 23 16:45:50 2014, in response to Re: High court upholds Mich affirmative action ban, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 23 16:18:12 2014. Because the person with disadvantages has shown himself as more capable as someone who has none but does just as well. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 23 16:46:06 2014, in response to Re: High court upholds Mich affirmative action ban, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 23 14:15:28 2014. Are you saying Asian get special treatment when applying to Berkeley? eh? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 23 16:46:19 2014, in response to Re: High court upholds Mich affirmative action ban, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 23 16:28:10 2014. At the expense of others that also worked hard to get where they are, but someone with less academic achievement can just take it away from them, because of government interference. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 23 16:47:35 2014, in response to Re: High court upholds Mich affirmative action ban, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 23 16:06:43 2014. So what? Why should that have any effect on college admissions, if anything, college admissions are one place where the effect of nepotism on the job market can be ameliorated. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 23 16:48:15 2014, in response to Re: High court upholds Mich affirmative action ban, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 23 16:46:19 2014. See Spider-Pig's reply. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 23 16:48:37 2014, in response to Re: High court upholds Mich affirmative action ban, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 23 16:47:35 2014. Exactly! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 23 16:51:24 2014, in response to Re: High court upholds Mich affirmative action ban, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 23 16:08:22 2014. So because we can't make it 100% perfect, we shouldn't try to make it somewhat less imperfect?That's called the nirvana fallacy. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 23 17:02:02 2014, in response to Re: High court upholds Mich affirmative action ban, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 23 16:17:00 2014. What does that have to do with anything? Why should a college accept someone due solely to their "inheritance?" |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 23 17:04:48 2014, in response to Re: High court upholds Mich affirmative action ban, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 23 16:46:19 2014. Yes, that's exactly what legacy does. |
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Posted by dand124 on Wed Apr 23 17:10:27 2014, in response to Re: High court upholds Mich affirmative action ban, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 23 15:46:58 2014. USNR rankings penalize colleges if accepted students don't enroll. colleges care(imho far too much) about USNR rankings. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 23 18:06:31 2014, in response to Re: High court upholds Mich affirmative action ban, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 23 15:44:24 2014. I wasn't talking general principle, I was talking the decision in THIS particular case. Kennedy clearly stated in the majority opinion, "This case is not about how the debate about racial preferences should be resolved. It is about who may resolve it."Did you read the decision? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 23 19:29:00 2014, in response to Re: High court upholds Mich affirmative action ban, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 23 14:19:25 2014. By the same token, a person's success in life should be based on their abilities and not the deficiencies of their parent or parents. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Wed Apr 23 19:50:46 2014, in response to Re: High court upholds Mich affirmative action ban, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Apr 22 13:01:10 2014. fuck them and that OBSOLETE WORTHLESS KKKonstitution. You Nazis want states rights, FINE. disband the Federal Government and the military and the world will be better off. notice how the rest of the world doesn't trust AmeriKKKa with internet governance? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Apr 23 20:13:27 2014, in response to Re: High court upholds Mich affirmative action ban, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 23 16:28:10 2014. No, It should stay out of the way unless it's absolutely necessary to intervene. |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Apr 23 20:23:10 2014, in response to Re: High court upholds Mich affirmative action ban, posted by RockParkMan on Wed Apr 23 19:50:46 2014. 
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Posted by orange blossom special on Thu Apr 24 12:06:44 2014, in response to Re: High court upholds Mich affirmative action ban, posted by RockParkMan on Wed Apr 23 19:50:46 2014. I don't know what discriminating against white people has to do with all them countries your president keeps invading. |
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