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Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 19 15:00:16 2014 What if Jesus wasn't real? Just a myth?Discuss. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 19 15:03:58 2014, in response to Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 19 15:00:16 2014. If you so much as even question it, you have no buisness calling youself a Christian. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 19 15:04:27 2014, in response to Re: Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 19 15:03:58 2014. WR0NG! |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 19 15:21:40 2014, in response to Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 19 15:00:16 2014. It seems pretty likely that there was a real human being we call Jesus of Nazareth as well as people we call Saints Peter and Paul.OK, so maybe Jesus was just a good rabble rouser, and Peter and Paul got taken in. Peter and Paul and their followers were then extremely good at spreading the message. Well, so what? Nothing changes. The present is what it is. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 19 15:23:09 2014, in response to Re: Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by AlM on Sat Apr 19 15:21:40 2014. Good post.I'm on my way to Easter vigil now. Won't be home until 11p or midnight. Tomorrow is Misa en Espanol. Maybe I'll read or hear something to change my mind over the next two days. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 19 15:38:25 2014, in response to Re: Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 19 15:04:27 2014. Is this Bingbong? |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 19 15:43:11 2014, in response to Re: Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 19 15:03:58 2014. So now you're an expert on Christian theology as well as Jewish theology? I'm impressed. |
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Posted by SubwaySurf on Sat Apr 19 15:45:02 2014, in response to Re: Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 19 15:38:25 2014. Ha ha calling luchie a womanIt is to laugh oh clueless one |
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Posted by SubwaySurf on Sat Apr 19 15:48:14 2014, in response to Re: Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 19 15:03:58 2014. Great response from the boards biggest SHJ .SMH |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 19 15:49:19 2014, in response to Re: Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by AlM on Sat Apr 19 15:43:11 2014. No, but if one doesn't believe Jesus Christ even existed, how can you call yourself a Christian? |
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Posted by SubwaySurf on Sat Apr 19 15:50:05 2014, in response to Re: Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 19 15:38:25 2014. Avon calling 8-/ |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 19 15:51:30 2014, in response to Re: Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by SubwaySurf on Sat Apr 19 15:45:02 2014. 
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Apr 19 16:10:51 2014, in response to Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 19 15:00:16 2014. He was no myth. Go look up the writings of Flavius Josephus.Or are you talking about the Jesus of the Koran? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Sat Apr 19 16:32:45 2014, in response to Re: Happy Easter, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Apr 19 16:10:51 2014. Maybe he was just watching reruns of the 1959 movie "Ben-Hur." |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sat Apr 19 16:48:25 2014, in response to Re: Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by AlM on Sat Apr 19 15:21:40 2014. +1 |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 19 17:03:11 2014, in response to Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 19 15:00:16 2014. Jesus Christ was real, there are records of his family in the Roman birth records. |
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Posted by DAnD124 on Sat Apr 19 17:06:08 2014, in response to Re: Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 19 17:03:11 2014. Jesus Christ was real, there are records of his family in the Roman birth records.citation needed |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 19 17:07:36 2014, in response to Re: Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 19 17:03:11 2014. There were birth certificates then? |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Apr 19 17:36:21 2014, in response to Re: Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by DAnD124 on Sat Apr 19 17:06:08 2014. Wasn't the trip to Nazareth to sign into the census? They must have them there.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SubwaySurf on Sat Apr 19 17:40:12 2014, in response to Re: Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by AlM on Sat Apr 19 15:43:11 2014. +1Seem he would so well to study the meaning of STFU. Then maybe folks here would respect him.........NAH |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Apr 19 17:40:54 2014, in response to Re: Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by SubwaySurf on Sat Apr 19 17:40:12 2014. Too simple.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SubwaySurf on Sat Apr 19 17:43:44 2014, in response to Re: Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by Fred G on Sat Apr 19 17:40:54 2014. Rightio, Fred |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 19 17:44:59 2014, in response to Re: Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by Fred G on Sat Apr 19 17:36:21 2014. They exist, and are held in several universities in Rome and by the Vatican. |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Apr 19 17:45:34 2014, in response to Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 19 15:00:16 2014. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 19 17:46:02 2014, in response to Re: Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 19 17:07:36 2014. No, they kept tax records which list family members. |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 17:53:51 2014, in response to Re: Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 19 17:46:02 2014. Nope. |
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Posted by DAnD124 on Sat Apr 19 17:57:31 2014, in response to Re: Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 19 17:07:36 2014. Kenyan birth certificates :) |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 17:59:07 2014, in response to Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 19 15:00:16 2014. Galatians 1.19 rather suggests that Jesus was real. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 19 18:07:49 2014, in response to Re: Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 17:53:51 2014. I would very much tend to believe you but I am curious why did Augustus have a census and then not write down the results? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 19 18:13:38 2014, in response to Re: Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by AlM on Sat Apr 19 18:07:49 2014. The census story is unlikely. There was never a census which required people to return to their town of birth and such a thing would be counterproductive in any event. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 19 18:14:39 2014, in response to Re: Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 17:59:07 2014. Well, Galatians and the other epistles might be fiction. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 19 18:16:13 2014, in response to Re: Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 19 18:13:38 2014. In that time, there were several. In a society based on clans and tribes, uh would be considered right and reasonable. |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 18:29:02 2014, in response to Re: Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 19 18:13:38 2014. There was never a census which required people to return to their town of birthIt's actually worse than that: Luke 2.4 has it because Joseph was a descendant of King David. In rough terms, that's 1000 years difference. How many people today know whether they're related to Æthelred the Unready? |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 18:34:27 2014, in response to Re: Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by AlM on Sat Apr 19 18:14:39 2014. Well, Galatians and the other epistles might be fiction.There are fictive epistles in the New Testament, and they look rather different. There's enough messiness, personal touches, and embarrassment value to the seven genuine Paulines that they don't seem like literary confections. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 19 18:46:51 2014, in response to Re: Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 18:29:02 2014. I can trace my own lineage back to Derek the incredibly wobbly. :) |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 19 18:51:18 2014, in response to Re: Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 18:34:27 2014. Well I certainly am not trying to argue that Jesus wasn't a historical figure. But I don't find your argument convincing. Paul could just have been a better fiction writer than others were. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Apr 20 01:39:16 2014, in response to Re: Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 19 18:13:38 2014. damn,man..thats just sad. anything to do with "the bible" is fiction to you dudes..and thats okay. it doesn't matter. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 20 11:56:45 2014, in response to Re: Happy Easter: Was Jesus A Carpenter Myth?, posted by Edwards! on Sun Apr 20 01:39:16 2014. I never said the whole bible is fiction. |
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