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It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 15 21:42:38 2014

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A new study finds that rich and powerful interest groups have a much greater impact on government policy than the majority of citizens.

"The central point that emerges from our research is that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence."

Gawker: "The study notes that the position of the median American and the position of the affluent American are often the same; therefore, regular people tend to think that their political interests are being represented when they see the triumph of some political position that they agree with. In fact, the researchers say, this is a mere coincidence. Yes, the average American will see their interests represented--as long as their interests align with the interests of the wealthy."

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Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy

Posted by TonyG on Tue Apr 15 21:43:53 2014, in response to It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 15 21:42:38 2014.

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It's official NOW? It's been like this ever since I was born.

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Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 15 21:48:51 2014, in response to Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy, posted by TonyG on Tue Apr 15 21:43:53 2014.

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Yep ... but Princeton's weighing in on it ... an actual credible source not affiliated with the communist party, News Corp, or CNN. :)

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Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 15 22:01:00 2014, in response to It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 15 21:42:38 2014.

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LOL! Wrong oligarchy.

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Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy

Posted by TonyG on Tue Apr 15 22:01:50 2014, in response to Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 15 21:48:51 2014.

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I still do think we're in for some dramatic change in the power structure of this country within the next 20 years.

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Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 15 22:37:30 2014, in response to Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 15 22:01:00 2014.

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I'm sorry that I spelled Ologarchy incorrectly. :)

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Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 15 22:38:26 2014, in response to Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy, posted by TonyG on Tue Apr 15 22:01:50 2014.

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Hopefully we won't have to wait that long. I have every faith that the Supreme Court will drop that other slipper in the coming months.

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Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy

Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 04:11:31 2014, in response to It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 15 21:42:38 2014.

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It's 4 AM so I don't have time to read the paper at the moment.

So I'll just offer my pre-reading wild speculations and wonder how well they accounted for the tendency of many Americans to intentionally vote for candidates they oppose for somewhat dubious reasons— for example, all of the liberals who vote for a right-wing Democrat on the basis that he's technically better than the Republican and they've arbitrarily declared that the (reasonably) liberal candidate "can't" win.

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Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 17 04:28:26 2014, in response to Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 04:11:31 2014.

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4 am? In England?

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Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy

Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 04:46:48 2014, in response to Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 17 04:28:26 2014.

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Who's in England?

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Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 17 04:59:20 2014, in response to Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 04:46:48 2014.

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I thought you might be British. Then again you could be a Brit living in the USA.

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Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy

Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 05:15:23 2014, in response to Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 17 04:59:20 2014.

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Nope. New Yorker all my life.

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Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy

Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 05:16:42 2014, in response to Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 05:15:23 2014.

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PS— if I were British, I would be grousing about the royal family more often. I mean come on, monarchy? It's not the 15th century anymore.

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Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 17 13:36:22 2014, in response to Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 05:16:42 2014.

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It still is to Olog. :)

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Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy

Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 13:38:42 2014, in response to Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 17 13:36:22 2014.

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:)

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Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy

Posted by dand124 on Thu Apr 17 13:47:10 2014, in response to Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 13:38:42 2014.

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olog believes in the Divine right of kings

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Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy

Posted by Dave on Fri Apr 18 07:32:22 2014, in response to Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy, posted by dand124 on Thu Apr 17 13:47:10 2014.

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How do you find a post from 3 years ago?

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Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy

Posted by mcorivervsaf on Fri Apr 18 07:35:18 2014, in response to Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy, posted by Dave on Fri Apr 18 07:32:22 2014.

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He does that quite often, it's the only thing he's good at.

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Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy

Posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 18 09:07:48 2014, in response to Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy, posted by Dave on Fri Apr 18 07:32:22 2014.

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Presumably by googling "olog" and clicking the first SubChat link.

Olog never stops being crazy, so the odds are very near 100% you'll turn up a whopper by doing that.

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Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 18 10:44:34 2014, in response to Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy, posted by dand124 on Thu Apr 17 13:47:10 2014.

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No he does not; stop lying. Just because a king is chosen by God does not mean he has the right to rule as he pleases; we've been over this already, and you're being pigheaded and a liar to boot.

Shall we go over your overt support of South African communism again?

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Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 18 10:48:21 2014, in response to Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy, posted by Dave on Fri Apr 18 07:32:22 2014.

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He probably has them bookmarked. He's not well in the head. If not, you can find them through Google if you know what keywords you're looking for.

http://www.google.com/search?q=dand124+site%3Asubchat.com (just one example of keyword use and website specification)

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Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy

Posted by bingbong on Fri Apr 18 12:15:09 2014, in response to Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 18 10:44:34 2014.

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Kings are not chosen by God. They are chosen by powerful family structures and survive so long as they answer to that structure and avoid civil war.

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Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 15:42:59 2014, in response to Re: It's official ... The U.S. Is an Oligarchy, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 18 10:44:34 2014.

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Olog believes in divine right of kings.

What, trying to outdo this little gem?

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