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Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish mosques overseas

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 10 17:03:02 2014

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This appeared on WSB-TV, ABC Action News (Atlanta GA).



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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish mosques overseas

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 10 17:13:13 2014, in response to Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish mosques overseas, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 10 17:03:02 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Ah what's the dig deal? They can always cut military spending some more.

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish mosques overseas

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 10 17:16:24 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish mosques overseas, posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 10 17:13:13 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Hagel's been hungering to do that.

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish mosques overseas

Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Mar 11 15:55:16 2014, in response to Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish mosques overseas, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 10 17:03:02 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I'll have to switch to the other computer where i have audio hooked up....but there's coverage on this 6 years after the fact?

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish mosques overseas

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 11 16:50:39 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish mosques overseas, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Mar 11 15:55:16 2014.

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It's amazing that there's coverage at all.

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by dand124 on Tue Mar 11 16:55:51 2014, in response to Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish mosques overseas, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 10 17:03:02 2014.

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http://www.factcheck.org/2011/03/funding-mosques-overseas/

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 11 17:02:23 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by dand124 on Tue Mar 11 16:55:51 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Precedent is no excuse.

You switch quite rapidly from crying terrorism to defending terrorism.

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 11 17:07:29 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by dand124 on Tue Mar 11 16:55:51 2014.

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Aw Gee Whiz, Susie Creemcheese ... look at who started the whole meghilla. Our good old friends at the "these people don't exist according to Pope Olog" people ... :)

A mass e-mail sent out by the Christian, conservative American Family Association claims that Obama is giving foreign aid to overseas mosques.

Robertson/Falwell/Crouch people would NEVER fib. LOL

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by 3-9 on Tue Mar 11 17:34:06 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 11 17:02:23 2014.

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How was the article defending terrorism?

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by dand124 on Tue Mar 11 17:35:04 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by 3-9 on Tue Mar 11 17:34:06 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
you don't get ologic

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by 3-9 on Tue Mar 11 17:39:58 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by dand124 on Tue Mar 11 17:35:04 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That's why I like to take a chance sometimes to see how it's explained. :-)

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish mosques overseas

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 11 17:44:15 2014, in response to Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish mosques overseas, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 10 17:03:02 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Do you get pleasure from lying constantly?

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 11 17:51:55 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by 3-9 on Tue Mar 11 17:39:58 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It rivals the mystery of the Holy Trinity as far as explanations go. :)

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by 3-9 on Tue Mar 11 18:00:14 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 11 17:51:55 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It'll be interesting to see which plant will be used to symbolize it. :-)

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 11 18:10:35 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by 3-9 on Tue Mar 11 18:00:14 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It's sorta like Palm Sunday over there. :)



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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 11 19:06:42 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by 3-9 on Tue Mar 11 17:34:06 2014.

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I didn't say "the article".

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by 3-9 on Tue Mar 11 19:10:47 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 11 19:06:42 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Then how was he defending terrorism by debunking your news piece?

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 11 19:18:40 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by dand124 on Tue Mar 11 17:35:04 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You don't get logic.

Why did you post that if not to justify Obama following precedent?

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 11 19:19:11 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by 3-9 on Tue Mar 11 19:10:47 2014.

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That didn't debunk anything. If anything, it was meant to defend past precedent by other liberals.

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by 3-9 on Tue Mar 11 19:34:41 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 11 19:19:11 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Did you read the piece? There wasn't "hundreds of millions" spent restoring mosques. It was tens of millions spent restoring all kinds of cultural monuments.

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 11 19:37:44 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by 3-9 on Tue Mar 11 19:34:41 2014.

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The Annenberg-funded "FactCheck" is no authority and have themselves been debunked on several occasions. Relent on the argumentum ad verecundiam, I suggest.

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by dand124 on Tue Mar 11 19:49:59 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 11 19:37:44 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The Annenberg-funded


so it's funded by a republican?

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 11 19:52:28 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by dand124 on Tue Mar 11 19:49:59 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
LOL, "republican". As in liberal. Lots of liberals fund the GOP. Tell us another one.

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by 3-9 on Tue Mar 11 19:56:09 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 11 19:37:44 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Then why don't you try counter-debunking some of the cites factcheck provides about USAid and the State Department? Unfortunately, since this is a 3 year old story you're propping up, some of the direct links don't work, though you can search based on the links' titles. Snopes has some more recent links.

And you still haven't explained how dand124 is defending terrorism.

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 11 19:56:22 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by dand124 on Tue Mar 11 19:49:59 2014.

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O boy! I get to be a first-up reply to an Ology subthread! :)

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 11 19:57:10 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by 3-9 on Tue Mar 11 19:56:09 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yes I did explain that. Go back a few posts.

And look up the phrase "argumentum ad verecundiam".

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by 3-9 on Tue Mar 11 19:57:30 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by 3-9 on Tue Mar 11 19:56:09 2014.

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Oops this is the correct Snopes link.

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 11 19:58:19 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 11 19:56:22 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
And here you coulda done something useful for humanity instead. (So could dandology.) But propping up the myth of a "right-wing" Republican Party trumps all, right?

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 11 19:58:58 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by 3-9 on Tue Mar 11 19:57:30 2014.

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"Mostly true" is a remarkable admission from Snoaps.

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 11 19:59:23 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 11 19:58:19 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It's only a runner up to all them commies everywhere. I'll wave you ahead into the fast lane, brah ... :)

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 11 20:00:27 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 11 19:59:23 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That'll be one super-duper fast lane when driving those two-cylinder cars, to be sure.

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by 3-9 on Tue Mar 11 20:03:26 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 11 19:58:58 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Not "hundreds of millions" as per your original piece, and not just mosques. It was never claimed that no money was ever spent restoring mosques.



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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by 3-9 on Tue Mar 11 20:13:13 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 11 19:57:10 2014.

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I did. You didn't explain anything, you simply dismissed his link. And posting counterpoints to your original claim is not "argument from authority", it's called debunking. Otherwise, your initial post would be just as fallacious.

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 11 20:15:07 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by 3-9 on Tue Mar 11 20:13:13 2014.

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I didn't dismiss his link. It doesn't say anything pertinent other than to point out prior precedent, which cannot justify actions by any following administration.

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by 3-9 on Tue Mar 11 20:22:24 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 11 20:15:07 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Then read it again. It pointed out a) the amount of money devoted to mosques was not even close to the claim in your original piece; b) the money in general was either spent restoring cultural edifices, or spent to fix a sewer system. Not exactly a big push for supporting or "defending" terrorism there.

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 11 20:28:13 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by 3-9 on Tue Mar 11 20:22:24 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No, that's not what it said.

We don’t know how much USAID spent in 2010 for projects that benefit mosques.
So they have nothing to dispute the WSB story.

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by 3-9 on Tue Mar 11 20:54:09 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 11 20:28:13 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
They're total budget for FY 2010 was approximately $32 million, for ALL activities, including health, mine clearing, etc. Hard to see how that suddenly ballooned to $770 million for mosques.

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 11 20:58:20 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by 3-9 on Tue Mar 11 20:54:09 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No timeline is specified in the WSB story that I can see.

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 11 21:01:17 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 11 20:28:13 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
So they have nothing to dispute the WSB story.

who said it did?

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by 3-9 on Tue Mar 11 21:01:31 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 11 20:58:20 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Estimated

Spent
(report includes State Department, the USAid site had a faulty link).

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 11 21:12:44 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 11 21:01:17 2014.

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Well, if I misunderstood you, I apologize.

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas

Posted by bingbong on Tue Mar 11 21:36:17 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish churches overseas, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 11 19:52:28 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Not lately. Unless you think the fascist Coke brothers are libals. With you, there's never any telling.

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Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish mosques overseas

Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Mar 12 07:10:02 2014, in response to Re: Obama admin spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars to refurbish mosques overseas, posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 11 17:44:15 2014.

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He apparently does.

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