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Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and "konservativrein"

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 17 22:46:03 2014

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Albany Times Union

Cuomo: ‘Extreme conservatives … have no place in the state of New York’

Posted on January 17, 2014 at 1:15 pm by Casey Seiler, Capitol bureau chief
Gov. Andrew Cuomo says the current “schism” in the state Republican party is a smaller version of the split causing so much damage in Washington, D.C., and that “conservative Republicans … have no place in the state of New York, because that’s not who New Yorkers are.”

In conversation with Susan Arbetter on “The Capitol Pressroom” Friday morning, Cuomo said:
You have a schism within the Republican Party. … They’re searching to define their soul, that’s what’s going on. Is the Republican party in this state a moderate party or is it an extreme conservative party? That’s what they’re trying to figure out. It’s a mirror of what’s going on in Washington. The gridlock in Washington is less about Democrats and Republicans. It’s more about extreme Republicans versus moderate Republicans.

… You’re seeing that play out in New York. … The Republican Party candidates are running against the SAFE Act — it was voted for by moderate Republicans who run the Senate! Their problem is not me and the Democrats; their problem is themselves. Who are they? Are they these extreme conservatives who are right-to-life, pro-assault-weapon, anti-gay? Is that who they are? Because if that’s who they are and they’re the extreme conservatives, they have no place in the state of New York, because that’s not who New Yorkers are.

If they’re moderate Republicans like in the Senate right now, who control the Senate — moderate Republicans have a place in their state. George Pataki was governor of this state as a moderate Republican; but not what you’re hearing from them on the far right.
The governor’s suggestion that, for example, those who hold anti-abortion views have no place in the state prompted Dennis Poust, spokesman for the state Catholic Conference, to observe on Twitter, “My governor thinks there’s no place in NY for people like me. Can I get a state grant to relocate?” (And where to — New Hampshire, maybe?)

Cuomo also defended his immense campaign haul of more than $33 million.

“Somebody can come in with personal wealth and just win the office because they can outspend you,” before alluding to Donald Trump’s boast that he could pour up to $200 million into a gubernatorial run: “You see some of the names brag about (how) they have unlimited wealth and can spend anything and could dwarf my spending, significant as my fundraising has been … and they’re proud about it, or they have family money, or daddy gives them money or whatever the case may be.

” … And I need to be in a position where I can explain to the people of the state what we’ve done and what we plan to do, and that’s why we raised the money in the campaign.”

If you were waiting for a full-throated reiteration of the governor’s call for public financing of campaigns, he eventually got there, but mainly as “a matter of appearance.”

“I think a lot of this conversation is baloney, frankly,” he said of concern over the wealth of many of his donors, insisting that the real question was one of character.

“Some politicians out there can be bought for $10, and some politicians can’t be bought for $10 billion, you know? It’s a question about the person,” he said. ” … It’s not how much does it cost to buy a politician, it’s that a politician can be bought.” (Which is, as Newsday’s Yancey Roy noted on Twitter as the interview was going on, very similar to arguments that opponents of public financing have been making.)

Cuomo said his ultimate test was whether or not he could sleep well at night.

“I believe in my heart and I believe the people of this state believe that — forget the money and the campaign contributions and what people give — I’m going to do what I believe is right for them, I’m going to make the decision that I’m proud of,” he said.


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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 17 22:52:26 2014, in response to Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and "konservativrein", posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 17 22:46:03 2014.

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I can't stand Prince Andrew, but he's absolutely right. If you want to be a fucktard, go live in the Ozarks where you belong. :)

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by RockParkMan on Fri Jan 17 23:04:54 2014, in response to Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and "konservativrein", posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 17 22:46:03 2014.

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Why don't you asswipes leave OUR country? You THINK you have all the answers, so you should be able to build a utopia. Go ahead and GET THE FUCK OUT. We'll save hundreds of millions a year on disarmament alone.

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 17 23:08:28 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by RockParkMan on Fri Jan 17 23:04:54 2014.

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LOL . . . ready to erect the border controls and DMZ on I-84, the Palisades and Garden State Parkways and everything, yes? Red China's taken control already, I see.

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 17 23:10:06 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 17 22:52:26 2014.

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No . . . he doesn't get to play dictator, sorry.

He's already cheesed off the Catholic Church. He's a marked man.

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 17 23:14:49 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 17 23:10:06 2014.

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Heh. You stay on your side of the Hudson, we'll stay on ours. Plenty of places for conservatives to play in Tennessee. Stay there.

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 17 23:16:30 2014, in response to Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and "konservativrein", posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 17 22:46:03 2014.

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you are SO full of shit.

I have no love for this "republican wearing democrat skin",but hes right.
We have no place for division here anymore..and no matter what folks like YOU say..our state will be better off with out dirty south like politicians or their down and dirty disruption tactics.

keep out of NY politics,and worry about you're own troubles.

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 17 23:20:07 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 17 23:14:49 2014.

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thats what i say..
he shouldn't worry about what going on here..not his concern, nor his business.
he SHOULD be worried about the fat ass Brigegate governor in HIS state.

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 17 23:20:19 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 17 23:14:49 2014.

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thats what i say..
he shouldn't worry about what going on here..not his concern, nor his business.
he SHOULD be worried about the fat ass Bridgegate governor in HIS state.

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 17 23:24:14 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 17 23:16:30 2014.

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His state stopped the voter ID stuff. You'd think he'd be down in Harrisburg tonight taking part a candlelight vigil or cross burning or such. :)

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 17 23:24:58 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 17 23:20:07 2014.

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Actually, he lives out in Martz land. :)

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by RockParkMan on Fri Jan 17 23:40:39 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 17 23:08:28 2014.

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"Red China's taken control already, I see."
Thanks to right wing union busting KKKapitalists.

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 17 23:41:35 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 17 23:24:58 2014.

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Now THATS sad..[my bad]
hes WORSE than NJ..

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 17 23:41:43 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 17 23:24:58 2014.

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Now THATS sad..[my bad]
hes WORSE than NJ..

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 18 00:15:46 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 17 23:41:35 2014.

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All part of that fabulous Trailwaste system. :)

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 18 00:20:48 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by RockParkMan on Fri Jan 17 23:40:39 2014.

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LOL, they don't exist. Now wait until the left gets more power, and then you'll see union-busting. (And the KKK's on the left, so maybe you're correct.)

Alas for the New York SSR.

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 18 00:31:58 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 17 23:14:49 2014.

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You got both sides of the Hudson from Rockland on up. My border with your Socialist Republic is the Delaware, remember. Good thing for NS that they don't use the Southern Tier much, since it crosses to the other side of the Delaware between Mill Rift and Tuften.

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 18 00:34:06 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 17 23:16:30 2014.

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I have no love for this "republican wearing democrat skin"

LOL! The man's anything but. He's all Democrat. Don't let him trap you in that state now.

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 18 00:37:42 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 17 23:24:14 2014.

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What do you want from Medicaid Corbett?

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 18 00:40:18 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 17 23:41:35 2014.

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Let me guess . . . you've never been west of the Raritan River.

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jan 18 00:57:26 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 18 00:34:06 2014.

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He won't give a raise to MJF, Railman718, clearaspect, BillfromMaspeth, G1Ravage, and a few others here.

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 18 01:05:44 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jan 18 00:57:26 2014.

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Demagogues in Albany think the world revolves around them and don't care about the little guy.

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jan 18 01:06:55 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 18 01:05:44 2014.

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but the little guys I just listed will vote for him vs. any Republican in the next election. THIW.

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 18 01:08:06 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 18 00:40:18 2014.

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LOL..you do nothing but hurt yourself Thinking[or guessing,as You call it.]

its well known what i did for a living for years..having been damn near all over the place.

Keep guessing though..its fun to watch.

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 18 01:19:18 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jan 18 01:06:55 2014.

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You've got too many über-lefties thinking that Andy's a "Republican" (as though he were conservative somehow). Don't ask logic to work in New York.

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 18 01:21:23 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 18 00:34:06 2014.

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you REALLY mean,he's NOT YOUR KIND of Republican..

its not as if any of this nasty messy business concerns you..you just keep playing with your toy blocks there,and let the grown ups handle the rough stuff..OOOOKKKAAYYY?

Good boy.

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 18 01:24:22 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 18 00:20:48 2014.

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I'd worry about Pottsylvania instead, bro ... now that the voter ID thing got overturned, watch them take away MORE of your trains to keep them from getting to the polls. We're just peachy over here in Freedomland, your type gets shot over here ... clean up your own mess before you tell others how to take care of theirs.

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 18 01:24:58 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 18 00:31:58 2014.

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Yeah, but we've got a protected border on THIS side ... *WE* know how to pump gas up in here. :)

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 18 01:25:11 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 18 01:19:18 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
funny how "NY" concerns you and LUCH so much.

meanwhile.. YOUR home states most fevered wish is to BE NEW YORK!

So..please..stop whining about all this BIG BOY stuff..
you aint built for it.

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 18 01:27:24 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 18 01:24:22 2014.

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i keep telling him that..but NOOOOOOOO..he just doesn't get it.
no biggie,though.haters gonna hate.

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 18 01:41:31 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 18 00:37:42 2014.

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Dunno ... not my concern. Take care of your own mess before claiming ownership of ours. We'll be just fine.

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 18 01:45:12 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 18 01:27:24 2014.

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And ...



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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jan 18 08:44:49 2014, in response to Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and "konservativrein", posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 17 22:46:03 2014.

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So much for diversity.

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jan 18 09:22:15 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 17 23:10:06 2014.

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Marked by whom? The mission of the church is NOT political interference.

And you're not Catholic so STFU.

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jan 18 09:38:42 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 18 00:37:42 2014.

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IN your case, probably Medicaid.

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 18 16:56:15 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jan 18 08:44:49 2014.

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All Big Brothers need their Emmanuel Goldsteins.

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 18 17:02:51 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by bingbong on Sat Jan 18 09:22:15 2014.

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LOL, you are talking utter ignorance of history, or just open lies. The Catholic Church not into political interference, when that's its whole history?? They're the definition of "church and state". Having been raised Catholic, I know of what I speak—and frankly, to be Catholic spiritually does not mean to be "in name only" while being against chief tenets of the religion (which is still staunchly anti-abortion and pro-traditional family—anyone against these is an heretick, like Andy). So go tell the Pope to STFU, because he's pro-everything that's traditional Catholicism . . .

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 18 17:06:11 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 18 01:25:11 2014.

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LOL, and I thought you were going to explain why Andy's a "Republican". But you can't, can ya?

All this "Big Boy stuff"? At least I have 4012 only thirty miles away from me.

I was born in NYC. Somehow I don't think you were. Is it really that much fun to be a poseur?

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 18 17:10:49 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 18 01:08:06 2014.

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You musta been real scared to venture far from home, though. Really shows.

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 18 17:11:55 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 18 01:24:22 2014.

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LOL, they always called the place "Freedomland" where it was most repressive. Right now, you're sorta in like Flynn and not part of the younger generation on its way out of the state though . . .

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by mtk52983 on Sat Jan 18 17:55:50 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 18 16:56:15 2014.

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I am more of an "Acid Burn" fan myself :)

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jan 18 21:06:06 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 18 17:02:51 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Since 1787, all religions are supposed to stay OUT of politics in the USA.

You said you are a Protestant. That's NOT Catholic. I was raised Catholic. I know of what I spek, and the church itself has mandated clergy NOT to be involved in politics, there was a priest that had gotten elected to Congress and had to resign, IIRC this was in the late 70s. So basically, stop with yer bullshit. You're not part of th church by your own admission.

Nor do they do heresy anymore.

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jan 18 21:06:53 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by bingbong on Sat Jan 18 21:06:06 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
has he said he's a protestant?

He only said, "Christian".

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 18 21:13:41 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by bingbong on Sat Jan 18 21:06:06 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Since 1787, all religions are supposed to stay OUT of politics in the USA

No, the Constitution doesn't say that. It only says that Congress may not pass any laws respecting an establishment of religion. But it wouldn't surprise me that you would get the US constitution mixed up with the USSR's constitution:

In order to ensure to citizens freedom of conscience, the church in the U.S.S.R. is separated from the state, and the school from the church. Freedom of religious worship and freedom of antireligious propaganda is recognized for all citizens.

1936 "Stalin" Constitution, Article 124

Citizens of the USSR are guaranteed freedom of conscience, that is, the right to profess or not to profess any religion, and to conduct religious worship or atheistic propaganda. Incitement of hostility or hatred on religious grounds is prohibited.

In the USSR, the church is separated from the state, and the school from the church.

1977 "Brezhnev" Constitution, Article 52
You said you are a Protestant

Are you trying to make the record for the most lies posted on OTChat?

Andrew Cuomo just declared war on the Vatican, you know. That won't end well.

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 18 21:15:15 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jan 18 21:06:53 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No, I ain't a Protestant either and never, ever said I was. Just a Christian. Just the bare fact of my believing that the seventh-day Sabbath (the "Jewish" Sabbath) is the correct sabbath and that Sunday worship is against Jesus' teachings would put me out of the mainstream as far as that goes.

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jan 18 21:44:41 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 18 21:15:15 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
With the boatload of attitudes you exhibit here, I'd never imagine you to be any variety of Christian. Your expressed attitudes are closer to a barbarian than anything Christ taught.LOL!

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Jan 18 21:48:42 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 18 17:06:11 2014.

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And how long will it take 4012 to actually operate?

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jan 18 21:53:40 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 18 21:13:41 2014.

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This isn't the USSR. Never was, never will be. The message for the church to stay out of politics came from the Vatican. Otherwise, fuck off with the commie bullshit. I'm no communist.

YOU said you were not a Catholic. If YOU are lying, then you ought to come clean with us all here. IMO, that's what's happening, and you're the one caught in it.

Where and when exactly did that happen? I saw a statement from the NY governor (and you live in PA so why should you give a damn?) about RWers much like yourself but nothing about the Vatican. How this non-"war" ends isn't an issue since there is, in reality, no war.

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by mtk52983 on Sat Jan 18 22:17:52 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by bingbong on Sat Jan 18 21:06:06 2014.

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Wrong. The Constitution merely forbids the state from favoring one religion over another. The purpose was to avoid creating a Church of the United States (a la Church of England). The founding fathers were religious men, but they rightfully saw the problem with religious dogma infecting every aspect of life

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Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein''

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jan 18 22:27:32 2014, in response to Re: Andy Cuomo declares New York state to be left wing and ''konservativrein'', posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 18 21:15:15 2014.

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Oh, well I went to Irish-Catholic mass tonight.

Sostenes was mentioned. Never heard of him before but it's a cool name.

Churches are closed on Monday on observance of Martin Luther King Jr's birthday. I don't know if mainline Protestants are doing the same.

It's interesting that you are Irish and not a Catholic.

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