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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by AlM on Sun Jan 12 15:33:11 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jan 12 15:14:43 2014.

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Just curious, what do you see the threat posed by Christian Zionism as being? That they somehow manage to persuade Israel to overreach in its fight with Muslim extremists (e.g., by expelling Palestinians)? That they manage to persuade the United States to support Israeli extremists who then overreach?



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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jan 12 15:40:05 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 12 15:27:32 2014.

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CMM, no. Olog, yes.

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 12 15:40:29 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 12 15:27:32 2014.

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jan 12 15:42:17 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 12 15:33:11 2014.

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Ultimately, the Jewish people need to determine their own fate and make decisions for themselves. Christian supporters of Israel tend to have motives that are less than genuine as far as I'm concerned (the Jews are pawns in the setup they need to create for Christ to return), and when it comes to asking "is this good for the Jews", the answer is usually no. If they truly supported the Jewish people, they would let us do what is right for ourselves.

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 12 15:43:27 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jan 12 15:14:43 2014.

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Wow! Amazing! Thank you for your answer.

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 12 15:44:03 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 15:16:32 2014.

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Who me? I'm on your side.

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 15:45:49 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jan 12 15:14:43 2014.

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LOL! You and your imaginary "Christian Zionists". Now who is it that has been funding the Muslim terror machine in the USA?—no, not "Christian Zionists", but the liberals, especially the almost-openly-godless (they'll go all the way next election) Democratic Party.

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 12 15:45:50 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jan 12 15:40:05 2014.

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I don't know whether to take that as a compliment or insult?

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 15:48:13 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jan 12 15:42:17 2014.

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Christian supporters of Israel tend to have motives that are less than genuine as far as I'm concerned (the Jews are pawns in the setup they need to create for Christ to return), and when it comes to asking "is this good for the Jews", the answer is usually no

Now where do you hear this? From your liberal buddies quoting fringe people such as Pat Robertson?

You'd better worry more about the Vatican. They actually organized military escapades into Israel, and the way they're organized, they might just do it again.

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 15:49:58 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 12 15:43:27 2014.

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That answer doesn't make sense. The people who he's labeling "Christian Zionists" (not those who actually embrace the term, whomever they might be) don't want to see Israel destroyed. They absolutely do not see Jesus out to destroy the Jews either!

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Arab states and others join in (''Palestinians'' celebrate death of Ariel Sharon)

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 15:55:23 2014, in response to "Palestinians" celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 11:22:44 2014.

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Notice they never mention the Gaza pullout.

Yedioth Ahronoth

Arab states celebrate Sharon's death

Newspapers, websites in Middle East call former leader 'criminal,' 'perpetrator of Sabra and Shatila Massacre.' Gazans flock to streets to burn his picture, give out candies

Roi Kais
Published: 01.12.14, 21:27
The Arab world received the news of former Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's death with relative schadenfreude, publicly criticizing him for his role in the Sabra and Shatila Massacre during the First Lebanon War.

From Cairo and Beirut to Dubai and the Gaza Strip, there were competitions of who could insult him more, while others were satisfied with celebrating outside turning local streets into a pocket of bedlam.

Celebratory gunshots were heard in refugee camps in Lebanon on Sunday, which one internet user called "the day of revenge for the victims of Sabra and Shatila."

Hezbollah Al-Manar television network dubbed the former premier's passing "the death of a criminal," and the official Syrian news agency Sana said Sharon was "one of the perpetrators of the Sabra and Shatila Massacre and the slaughter in occupied Palestine."

An advisor to former Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi said Sharon's death was insignificant. "There are still another six million Sharons living on lands they stole and continue to steal everyday."

Brazilian caricaturist Carlos Latuff depicted Sharon as carrying his sins ó Sabra, Shatila, Qibya and Jenin ó to hell. An Egyptian caricature showed Sharon being thrown into the garbage can of history.

The al-Aharam paper said that first Israeli Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion "described Sharon as a war machine, and Sharon promised to burn the children of Palestine." Other newspapers called him a murderer and that he had blood on his hands.

In Gaza, refugees shouted "Sharon, go to hell," while others burned his picture and gave out candies to passers-by.

Fatah executive Jibril Rajoub told French media that "Sharon was the criminal responsible for Yasser Arafat's death." He said he wanted Sharon to stand trial at the international court for war criminals.

The Jordanian regime at first published a short announcement about the death condemning the leader, but citizens said that there were still too many types of Sharons leading the countries of the Middle East.


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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 15:56:03 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 12 15:44:03 2014.

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No, that goes after the person doing the pwn1ng.

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 12 15:56:39 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 15:49:58 2014.

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No, I am amazed that that it took all those questions to get somewhat of a definitive answer. I am also amazed that he views you as the enemy and not the arab muslims who want Jews marched into the sea.

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 12 15:57:30 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 15:56:03 2014.

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In this case WHATCHIMACALLIT?

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by AlM on Sun Jan 12 15:58:45 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jan 12 15:40:05 2014.

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Agreed, Olog has a considerably greater level of ingenuity.


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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 16:00:02 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 12 15:57:30 2014.

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No.

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by AlM on Sun Jan 12 16:00:26 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 12 15:56:39 2014.

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I am also amazed that he views you as the enemy and not the arab muslims who want Jews marched into the sea.

I am amazed at your inability to understand what he writes. He's told you dozens of times that he views Islamists as a threat to Israel.





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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 16:03:33 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 12 15:56:39 2014.

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It isn't any so-called "Christian Zionist" that gives money to the "Palestinians" to blow people up, or to Iran to build nuclear weapons. It's his liberal buddies instead.

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 16:05:19 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 12 16:00:26 2014.

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He's told you dozens of times that he views Islamists as a threat to Israel

No, that's not what he said.

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 12 16:06:27 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 16:00:02 2014.

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Me?

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 12 16:06:59 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 12 16:00:26 2014.

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Are you Jewish?

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 16:08:09 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 12 15:58:45 2014.

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Over a liberal lie? Guess again. Every time I ask them to point out a significant number of "Christian Zionists", never mind any who express beliefs exactly as he stated, they fail to do so.

Liberals are a bigger threat to Israel than a "Christian Zionist" due to materially supporting Islamic terror.

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 12 16:08:57 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 16:08:09 2014.

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 16:08:58 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 12 16:06:27 2014.

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yes, yu0 pwnt h1m.

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 12 16:10:00 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 16:08:58 2014.

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I thought we were on the same side? Now you're getting me pissed.

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 12 16:11:29 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 12 16:10:00 2014.

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Oh wait a minute Olog, I miss read what you wrote. I apologize. Thank you for your support. My bad.

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 12 16:17:43 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 15:48:13 2014.

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LOL! How many divisions have they got?

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 12 16:24:14 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 15:16:32 2014.

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Hardly

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 12 16:24:52 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 12 16:11:29 2014.

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LOL!

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by AlM on Sun Jan 12 16:25:46 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 12 16:17:43 2014.

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Those Swiss Guards can be pretty mean, Joe.


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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 12 16:27:33 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 12 16:25:46 2014.

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Those filthy neutrals, kif?

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 16:48:09 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 12 16:24:14 2014.

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Nothing like patting yourself on the back, eh?

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Jan 12 16:48:39 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 12 16:25:46 2014.

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I hope they get Olog.

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 16:49:18 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 12 16:17:43 2014.

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Stalin ate those words.

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 16:51:42 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by RockParkMan on Sun Jan 12 16:48:39 2014.

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They're too worried about issues like this.

And Stalin ate his "divisions" quote rather early.

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 12 17:03:34 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 12 16:17:43 2014.

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I'm siding with Olog on this one ... the Pope is ready for war, and always prepared to fling that Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch. Semper Foo!



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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jan 12 17:11:34 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 12 16:06:59 2014.

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It is irrelevant if he is or isn't. He understands what I'm saying. Apparently you do not.

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by AlM on Sun Jan 12 17:53:29 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 12 16:06:59 2014.

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Let us suppose that I am not. What conclusion would you wish to draw in that case?


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Americans celebrate the death Margret Thatcher

Posted by DAnD124 on Sun Jan 12 17:56:34 2014, in response to "Palestinians" celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 11:22:44 2014.

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remember that?

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Jan 12 18:18:25 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 12 17:53:29 2014.

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Then you either an anti Semite or a self hating Jew.

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by AlM on Sun Jan 12 18:45:28 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Jan 12 18:18:25 2014.

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OK, now you are reaching new heights of obtuseness. I point out that you are ignoring items in WMATA's posts, and that makes me an antisemite or a self-hating Jew. What does that make your high school English teachers, who probably pointed out numerous failures of reading comprehension to you? Serial killers?



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Re: ''Palestinians'' celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jan 12 19:55:49 2014, in response to "Palestinians" celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 11:22:44 2014.

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Completely unsurprised.

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 20:00:17 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 12 18:45:28 2014.

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He's not ignoring anything. Except the tinfoil-hat talk about bogeymen invented by liberals.

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by AlM on Sun Jan 12 20:26:26 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 20:00:17 2014.

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Your reading comprehension is now as bad as CMMs.

This is what CMM denied.


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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by AlM on Sun Jan 12 20:31:54 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 12 20:26:26 2014.

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And here is his denial.

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 20:33:56 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 12 20:31:54 2014.

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I read him just fine. Problem is, you haven't been following WMATA's unbalanced reactions; his reaction to those imaginary "Christian Zionists" is much stronger than towards those very real terrorists that are actually surrounding Israel. So Mr. Motorman came out with a very valid extrapolation.

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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by AlM on Sun Jan 12 20:49:30 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 20:33:56 2014.

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Reading comprehension fails again. When he talks about Christian Zionists he expresses his opinion about them. When he talks about fanatic Muslims he expresses his opinion of them. It's willful ignorance by you and CMM to not understand what he is saying and to deny that he considers fanatic Muslims a serious threat to Israel.



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Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 21:03:32 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 12 20:49:30 2014.

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LOL! Nice try. "Expressing an opinion" doesn't consist of merely talking blather, you know.

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Re: Holy Popemobile! Pope Francis Gives Old Friend a Lift

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jan 12 23:13:34 2014, in response to Re: Palesites celebrate death of Ariel Sharon, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 12 17:03:34 2014.

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Holy Popemobile! Pope Francis gives 'old friend' a lift
By Catholic Online (NEWS CONSORTIUM)

Buenos Aires Priest FabiŠn BŠez reconnects with old friend


Sometimes the most marvelous things happen naturally. Priest FabiŠn BŠez from Buenos Aires was in Rome to see his old friend, Pope Francis, who he knew in Argentina. The pope recognized his old friend and said "Come! Hop in!" and gave BŠez a lift in his official Popemobile. He was delighted to share his experience with reporters -

Priest FabiŠn BŠez from Buenos Aires was in Rome to see his old friend, Pope Francis, who he knew in Argentina. The pope recognized his old friend and said


LOS ANGELES, CA (Catholic Online) - Francis spotted BŠez among many faces in St. Peter's Square for yesterday's General Audience. Lifting BŠez into the Popemobile, Francis said laughing, "This picture's going to make it round the world!"

When asked how the incident came about, BŠez replied, "I only arrived in Rome on Tuesday night and on Wednesday morning I had no way of attending the Pope's catechesis because I didn't know where I could get hold of the admission tickets. So I went to the Square and stood behind the crowd control barriers hoping to see him go by in the Popemobile.

Display your faith with this beautiful cross.

"When he went past he saw me saw me and recognized me. I shouted really loud but it's hard to make oneself heard. I was surprised at how much affection people showed the Pope. He saw me and said to me: 'What are you doing here?' I shouted out that I had come to see him. The Popemobile continued then turned around and stopped. He called out to me, got me to hop over the barriers and said to me: 'Come! Hop in!'

"I thought he was going to get me a seat or a better place further on but instead he said: 'Come! Hop into the Popemobile!' I greeted him, gave him a hug and got in. I couldn't believe what was happening," BŠez said.

"He laughed and said to me: 'This picture's going to make it round the world.' I had slight difficulty jumping over the barrier so he made a joke about it.

"'Next time we'll make the barrier's smaller,' he said, or something to that effect. He was very kind; he let me into the vehicle and asked for a seat to be placed near his. Then he said: 'Do you have to go?' to which I said I would stay until the end. He replied: 'OK, I'll speak to you in a bit.'

"He did. We talked for a few minutes, he asked me about some people we both knew and we chatted about some personal things. I haven't seen or spoken to him since he became Pope so it was a pretty exciting moment."

It was yet another example of the new pope's accessibility. His warmth and outreach with disregard, some feel, for security, has made Pope Francis a most unorthodox - but widely loved Pontiff.


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Re: Americans celebrate the death Margret Thatcher

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jan 12 23:17:28 2014, in response to Americans celebrate the death Margret Thatcher, posted by DAnD124 on Sun Jan 12 17:56:34 2014.

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I did.

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