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George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Nov 7 17:07:32 2013

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Story here

For those of you who doubt what some Christians believe in when it comes to Jews and Israel, it doesn't get much clearer than this...

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 7 17:15:08 2013, in response to George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Nov 7 17:07:32 2013.

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I saw "Mother Jones" and just didn't click.



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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ

Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Nov 7 17:19:51 2013, in response to George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Nov 7 17:07:32 2013.

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Of course they believe that. Everyone with one working brain cell knows that Evangelicala are supporting Israel because they think doing so will compel the return of Christ.

What I'm afraid of is that if their efforts fail, they will blame the Jews who refuse to convert and seek to kill all of them. Just like the Inquisition.

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ

Posted by dand124 on Thu Nov 7 17:20:54 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Nov 7 17:19:51 2013.

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Of course they believe that. Everyone with one working brain cell knows that Evangelicala are supporting Israel because they think doing so will compel the return of Christ.

olog says they don't and the idea that they do is an invention of liberals.

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 7 17:21:33 2013, in response to George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Nov 7 17:07:32 2013.

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Proselytizing is not against the law, you know, unless it's a forcible attempt at conversion, like your "Palestinian" friends are fond of. You still seeing "Christian Zionists" in your woodpile while ignoring Hamas almost in your face?

And Mother Jones, really? You're not making yourself look very Jewish. More like Marxist.

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 7 17:23:37 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Nov 7 17:19:51 2013.

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Everyone with one working brain cell knows that Evangelicals are supporting Israel because they think doing so will compel the return of Christ

No. You believe this load of propaganda too?

Only the Twelvers want to compel the return of a savior, that being their Mahdi.

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews

Posted by dand124 on Thu Nov 7 17:24:07 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 7 17:21:33 2013.

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You're not making yourself look very Jewish. More like Marxist.

are you aware of historical connection between Marxism and Zionism?

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 7 17:24:55 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ, posted by dand124 on Thu Nov 7 17:20:54 2013.

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It is an invention of liberals. Problem is the number of Jews that fall for it.

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 7 17:28:18 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews, posted by dand124 on Thu Nov 7 17:24:07 2013.

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There is no such connection. People who say that there is are usually Nazis or very-far leftists, the same kind who are "anti-Zionist" today.

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Nov 7 17:42:12 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 7 17:23:37 2013.

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False! I worked for these fools back in 1980 and 1981 and their fine television networks which spouted that crap daily. :(

CBN ... PTL ... TBN.

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Nov 7 17:55:00 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Nov 7 17:19:51 2013.

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Of course they believe that.

Try telling that to some people here, including some Jews.

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Nov 7 17:55:44 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 7 17:21:33 2013.

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I don't ignore Hamas. You ignore my addressing the issue because it doesn't fit in with your worldview and agenda.

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Nov 7 18:01:00 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 7 17:24:55 2013.

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Not half as many as the teabaggers. Then there's "Jews for Jesus" which I won't even bother scoffing at.

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews

Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Nov 7 18:09:08 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 7 17:23:37 2013.

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I meant "compel" in the sense of "bring about".

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 7 18:23:09 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Nov 7 17:55:00 2013.

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That's a commentary aimed at Olog-hai and Chicagomotorman.

We know who you mean.

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 7 18:29:49 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Nov 7 18:09:08 2013.

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No, that cannot be done.

But Zechariah 14 strongly indicates that the Jews being in Israel is a sign that the Messiah's coming is very close.

You have any sources that verify that such people think they can bring about Jesus' second coming?

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 7 18:38:41 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Nov 7 18:01:00 2013.

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What's with your obsession with that sexual act? Now I gotta wonder.

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Nov 7 19:28:01 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 7 18:38:41 2013.

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Yeah, that'll make it go away. :)

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for NAZI KKKhriSS$tians

Posted by rockparkman on Thu Nov 7 19:42:57 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 7 17:24:55 2013.

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Messianic Jews= KKKhriSS$tians

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 7 20:25:27 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for NAZI KKKhriSS$tians, posted by rockparkman on Thu Nov 7 19:42:57 2013.

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Thanks for showing you're an antisemite again, rocKKKparKKKnazi. So Jews have to believe a certain way?

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Nov 7 21:08:56 2013, in response to George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Nov 7 17:07:32 2013.

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Bush was no prize, but he's a lot better than this anti-semite we have in tbe White House now.

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 7 21:12:02 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Nov 7 21:08:56 2013.

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You heard about Michelle Obama celebrating Diwali in the White House? I wonder what their Muslim friends think about that.

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews

Posted by rockparkman on Thu Nov 7 21:15:10 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 7 20:25:27 2013.

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The DEFINING CHARACTERISTIC of Judaism is that the Messiah's time is in the future. IDIOT.

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Nov 7 21:21:23 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 7 21:12:02 2013.

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So maybe she should just stick to Kwanzaa? Is that it?

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 7 21:46:37 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews, posted by rockparkman on Thu Nov 7 21:15:10 2013.

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Guess you've spent absolutely no time reading Yisheyah, have you rocKKKparKKKnazi?

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Nov 7 22:01:54 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Nov 7 21:21:23 2013.

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That would be more appropriate.

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 7 22:02:45 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Nov 7 21:21:23 2013.

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That'll still make their "allies" rather mad.

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Nov 7 22:04:42 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 7 18:23:09 2013.

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I beg your pardon.

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Nov 7 22:06:22 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Nov 7 17:55:44 2013.

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And your agenda is the national suicide of Israel.

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ

Posted by Dave on Thu Nov 7 22:44:51 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Nov 7 21:08:56 2013.

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IAWTP.

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Nov 7 23:15:16 2013, in response to George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Nov 7 17:07:32 2013.

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Bush was no prize, but he's a lot better than this anti-semite we have in tbe White House now.

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 8 00:08:57 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Nov 7 22:06:22 2013.

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It's your agenda that is the national suicide of Israel.

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Nov 8 06:18:09 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 8 00:08:57 2013.

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By not giving land away to arabs?

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 8 07:02:15 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Nov 8 06:18:09 2013.

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What Arabs? They're going to cede the West Bank to Saudi Arabia?

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews

Posted by AlM on Fri Nov 8 08:33:00 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 8 07:02:15 2013.

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Maybe we should start calling the residents of Judea and Samaria Muslim Israelites. Because that's probably what they are, ethnically.



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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Nov 8 09:55:41 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Nov 7 23:15:16 2013.

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Proff again that you need to move to North Korea!!

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Nov 8 10:04:42 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 7 18:29:49 2013.

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But Zechariah 14 strongly indicates that the Jews being in Israel is a sign that the Messiah's coming is very close.

And to a Christian, who could this Messiah possibly be?


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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Nov 8 11:19:17 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 8 07:02:15 2013.

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The so-called palestinians.

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 8 11:49:10 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews, posted by AlM on Fri Nov 8 08:33:00 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Some of them are Christian, but you're generally right.

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 8 11:51:52 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Nov 8 11:19:17 2013.

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They're as much Arabs as you are English because you speak English and live in a country where it is the first language of the vast majority of the population. They are not the same people as the Arabians.

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews

Posted by AlM on Fri Nov 8 11:54:49 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 8 11:49:10 2013.

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Good point. Let me try that. :)

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews

Posted by Dave on Fri Nov 8 11:55:05 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews, posted by SMAZ on Fri Nov 8 10:04:42 2013.

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some_text



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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews

Posted by AlM on Fri Nov 8 11:57:27 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Messianic Jews, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Nov 8 11:19:17 2013.

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OK, let's not call them Palestinians, because they are not descended from the Philistines, which is where Rome got the name Palestrina from. Let's call them what they really are: Christian and Muslim Israelites.


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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ

Posted by WillD on Fri Nov 8 12:32:21 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Nov 7 23:15:16 2013.

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What specific policies has the Obama Administration adopted which reflect this purported anti-Semitic stance you claim they have?

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Nov 8 17:43:47 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ, posted by WillD on Fri Nov 8 12:32:21 2013.

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Attending 20 years a racist church. Telling Israel to go back to its 1967 suicide borders.

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ

Posted by Fred G on Fri Nov 8 18:17:53 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Nov 8 17:43:47 2013.

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LOL, fuckin idiot.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Nov 8 18:32:42 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ, posted by Fred G on Fri Nov 8 18:17:53 2013.

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No, i dont suffer from white guilt.

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ

Posted by Fred G on Fri Nov 8 19:19:26 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Nov 8 18:32:42 2013.

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You're just a racist asshole who pollutes this board.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Nov 8 19:27:45 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ, posted by Fred G on Fri Nov 8 19:19:26 2013.

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You insult me, yet you're still my pal?

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Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ

Posted by Fred G on Fri Nov 8 19:34:11 2013, in response to Re: George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Nov 8 19:27:45 2013.

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It's a love hate relationship :)

your pal,
Fred

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