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Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant (Was: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.) |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Sep 6 22:44:00 2008, in response to Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant (Was: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 6 22:40:17 2008. Amen brother |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 6 22:45:05 2008, in response to Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant (Was: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 6 22:40:17 2008. There are things that ought to be off limits. The liberal media gave Chelsea her space even though she was also a very prolific young lady - just not as cute. |
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Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant (Was: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.) |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 6 22:46:53 2008, in response to Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant (Was: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 6 22:45:05 2008. However...what exactly was there about Chelsea to dig up? |
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Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant (Was: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 6 22:50:04 2008, in response to Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant (Was: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 6 22:46:53 2008. Chelsea flitted around Europe and had several "steady" boyfriends with whom she shacked up. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 6 22:54:27 2008, in response to Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant (Was: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 6 22:50:04 2008. That's for Page Six...and even if it came up, Bill Clinton couldn't be re-elected...and never mind he had his own fun. |
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Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant (Was: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.) |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Sep 6 22:58:06 2008, in response to Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant (Was: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 6 22:50:04 2008. ?? so your still virgin till marriage ??? or you have double standards ?? |
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Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant (Was: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 6 23:03:36 2008, in response to Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant (Was: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 6 22:45:05 2008. Chelsea didn't get knocked up out of wedlock though. I'm SURE you know how important that issue is normally to republicans ... as unsavory as it might be, it was made "fair" by party policies, and a reinforcement of the "do as we SAY, not as we DO" mentality. Sorry ... it WAS "newsworthy" since this is the MOST important job in the nation, particularly if she succeeds McCain ... you might not agree given it landed on your side of the fence, but do consider the point ... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 6 23:04:55 2008, in response to Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant (Was: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 6 22:50:04 2008. Sorry to say, you just MADE my point in the other reply. |
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UH-OH ... Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 7 00:00:32 2008, in response to Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant (Was: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Sep 6 21:56:30 2008. Damn, Dude ... shouldn't have brought that up ... lookee at what *I* found, and it's a source owned by Rupert Murdoch (Faux news, etc) so you can't wiggle out of this one ... shoulda left that sleeping dog lie there, guy ... MORE horseshit made geldingshit ... Regulators Shutter Silver State Bank By DAVID ENRICH and DAMIAN PALETTA September 6, 2008 9:26 p.m. State and federal regulators on Friday shut down Silver State Bank, the latest in a series of bank failures and one that could ripple through the presidential campaign. Until recently, the son of Republican nominee Sen. John McCain sat on Silver State's board and was a member of its three-person audit committee, which was responsible for overseeing the company's financial condition. Andrew McCain left the Henderson, Nev., bank July 26 after five months on the board, citing "personal reasons." He is Sen. McCain's adopted son from his first marriage. There is no evidence that Mr. McCain, 46, committed any wrongdoing. Nor are there signs that Sen. McCain, the Arizona Republican who on Thursday accepted his party's presidential nomination, had any knowledge of or involvement in Silver State's problems. McCain spokesman Taylor Griffin issued this response: "Silver State, like many regional banks, is struggling in the midst of very difficult economic conditions. Andy realized after joining the Silver State board in April that the bank needed directors who could devote a great deal of time and attention to guiding the bank through this challenging time. Living in Phoenix and having just accepted the chairmanship of the Phoenix Chamber of Commerce, Andy realized that it would be difficult for him to devote the time and attention that Silver State's shareholders and depositors deserved. So, he stepped down." Efforts to reach Andrew McCain Friday night at Hensley & Co., the family-owned beer distributor where he is chief financial officer, were unsuccessful. The lender, the 11th bank to fail in the U.S. this year, was overexposed to risky real-estate loans, a problem that's vexing many banks amid the worst financial crisis in a generation. Silver State had nearly $2 billion in assets and 17 branches in Arizona and Nevada. The FDIC said Nevada State Bank, a Las Vegas-based unit of Zions Bancorp., is taking over the insured deposits of the failed bank, as well as some of its assets. Some $20 million of Silver State's $1.7 billion in deposits were uninsured by the FDIC, representing about 500 customer accounts, the agency said. Silver State's failure will be costly to the FDIC's already-strained deposit insurance fund. The FDIC estimated it will incur a $450 million to $550 million hit. The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. had been preparing to shut down Silver State late last month, but the agency encountered resistance from the Nevada Division of Financial Institutions, according to people familiar with the matter. The Nevada regulators had final say over whether to pull the plug on the state-chartered bank, and wanted to keep it open. Founded in 1996, Silver State specialized in construction and land-development loans to finance real-estate projects in Nevada and Arizona. In July 2007, Silver State raised about $30 million through an initial public stock offering. Its shares debuted at $20. The business unraveled this year. By June 30, borrowers had fallen behind on about $252 million worth of loans, compared to about $11.5 million six months earlier, according to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. The bank's capital ratios, which represent the bank's cushion to absorb losses, have dropped sharply. Mr. McCain's ties to Silver State date to 2006, when he became a director of Choice Bank, a small Scottsdale, Ariz., lender that Silver State acquired that year. Mr. McCain's family was an early investor in Choice, according to people familiar with the matter. Choice was smaller than Silver State, but its finances deteriorated just as quickly and hurt the parent company. As of March 31, 2008, Choice was facing $7.9 million worth of delinquent loans, up from $1.6 million three months earlier. Silver State recently logged an $18.8 million write-down, representing the full remaining value of its investment in Choice, to reflect the "continued deterioration" of the franchise's credit quality, according to securities filings. In June, Silver State planned to raise up to $40 million through a stock offering. As a way to entice investors, the company's 10 directors each agreed to participate. Mr. McCain, who at the time owned 1,126 shares of Silver State stock, pledged to buy another 170,648 shares, according to regulatory filings. At the $3.26-a-share offering price, it would have cost him $556,312. A successful stock offering could have bought Silver State some time. But the offering never was consummated, in part because Silver State couldn't drum up interest from investors. If Mr. McCain had remained on Silver State's board another four days, his position on the audit committee would have required him to sign off on the company's second-quarter financial statements. Three weeks after Mr. McCain quit, Silver State had to revise those second-quarter numbers to reflect a loss of $72.3 million, which was larger than previously reported. It warned in the Aug. 15 regulatory filing of "uncertainty about the company's ability to continue as a going concern," a sign the bank's survival was in doubt. Silver State said at the time its insurance carrier planned to cancel policies protecting Silver State's directors and executives from liability due to the bank's elevated risk profile, effective Oct. 7. Mr. McCain's public role in his father's presidential campaign has been mostly limited to appearances at several events last month. A person close to Mr. McCain says he left Silver State's board because his busy schedule meant he wouldn't be able to devote enough time to the struggling bank. Mr. McCain was a quiet presence on Choice's board, say former associates. He would occasionally ask executives about how the bank's loan portfolios were holding up, but rarely pressed for details. William Robert, a co-founder of Choice, says Mr. McCain didn't play an active role on the boards of either Choice or Silver State. "He got on [the Silver State] board, he looked around, and he decided he shouldn't be on it," Mr. Robert said. "There's nothing suspicious here." --Elizabeth Holmes contributed to this article. |
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UH-OH ... Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 7 00:01:48 2008, in response to Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant (Was: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Sep 6 21:56:30 2008. Whoops! Sorry, Dutch ... the above message was directed at the Dude ... |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 7 02:03:53 2008, in response to Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant (Was: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 6 23:03:36 2008. Sorry, but the fact is that the DNC and the liberal-nazis now see the once certain occupation of the White House by Barack Hussein Obama now slipping from their grasp - especially since the addition of Sarah Palin to the ticket. The pressure has caused the left wing weasels to pull out all stops to discredit the vice presidential candidate while looking the other way from racism, sexism and criminal behavior on the part of the dummycrits. They now do not even try to pretend the hypocracy does not exist. They feel the end will jusify the means - hence, you guys just seem to keep lowering the bar along with your own ethical standards. |
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Re: UH-OH ... Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 7 02:07:56 2008, in response to UH-OH ... Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 7 00:00:32 2008. "There is no evidence that Mr. McCain, 46, committed any wrongdoing. Nor are there signs that Sen. McCain, the Arizona Republican who on Thursday accepted his party's presidential nomination, had any knowledge of or involvement in Silver State's problems. "So while I was out with my friends shooting pool and having a few brews, this is your idea of a life? To find a news article that proves nothing just to try to one-up me? Oh well- it is your life |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 7 02:31:48 2008, in response to Re: UH-OH ... Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant, posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 7 02:07:56 2008. Yeah, sorry about that. Some of us have to actually work for a living instead of suckling off the taxpayer teat and shovelling paper like you do ... I'm sure Biden is a crook too. But hey, drawing parallels apparently isn't your forte. Ah well ... Governor Dave is looking to cut some of the deadwood ... moo. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 7 02:32:59 2008, in response to Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant (Was: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 7 02:03:53 2008. Ethics ... from a republican. Do you have any idea of how laughable that oxymoron is? |
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Re: UH-OH ... Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 7 02:36:30 2008, in response to Re: UH-OH ... Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 7 02:31:48 2008. And they made a good start when they cut you |
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Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant (Was: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 7 02:37:33 2008, in response to Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant (Was: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 7 02:32:59 2008. No but while you are "working" why don't you spend a few hours explaining it to us. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 7 04:24:24 2008, in response to Re: UH-OH ... Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant, posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 7 02:36:30 2008. Heh. Man oh man you're obviously having fun. OK, truth time for y'all ... Cuomo killed the NY-SCAN channel. All of the "TV people" were fired except for ME and one other engineer. We were transferred to the agency's "Telecommunications division" as laterals to compensate for a hiring freeze and nobody left to go out and shoot errant cable operators statewide.Paturkey then killed the ENTIRE AGENCY! I, and about 35 other people ended up being hired by the Department of Public Service (NYPSC) and those of us in the telecommunications division went into PSC's Telecommunications division where I did what I did at the Cable Commission sometimes but spent most of my time working on deploying fiber optic and DSL technology for both NYNEX as well as the cable industry, plus research on that Intarwebs thing ... I RESIGNED from the PSC two years later because I got tired of working in a bureaucracy and being bored out of my teat attending meetings with idiots and twiddling my thumbs all day trying to create my own "make work." Went and started a software company. At NO time was I "pushed out" and even to this *DAY* they want me to come back. At the KT Tunstall concert a month or two ago, ran into my former supervisor who is now the agency's Chief Telecommunications Officer (uberwig) and once again, I was begged to come back there to deal with Verizon and their (cough) FiOS mess. I said no thanks because that'd be a 60% pay cut. So if yer gonna be snarky about it (and you did) I'm making over 6 figures now. Are YOU? I at least have the skills to not have to suck that taxpayer teat. Can YOU? :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 7 04:27:47 2008, in response to Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant (Was: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 7 02:37:33 2008. Not my pay grade, bro ... but if you want to be a prick over politics, you shouldn't be collecting a check doing what you hate so much. And like I said, if you can claim to be "ethical" and have no issues with the current "regime" (and the copycat replacement) then nothing I would say would ever penetrate ... no, I'm sorry dewd ... I work for a living. Cut me a check and I'll 'splain it to ya. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 7 08:22:22 2008, in response to Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant (Was: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 7 04:27:47 2008. Actually, bro, I love my job and have never said otherwise, despite your implications The fact is my politics have nothing to do with anything but my politics except to the children who can't understand otherwise and if I am a "prick" because I disagree with you then 'tis a badge I shall wear proudly. Fact is, your politics are wrong but your attitude is worse and I have no interest in fixing your "loss of indication", BRO! |
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Re: UH-OH ... Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 7 08:28:09 2008, in response to Re: UH-OH ... Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 7 04:24:24 2008. Actually, bro, my salary is public record and is posted every April on NYC.gov. If that's how you judge success in life - check next April and we'll see who's is bigger. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Sep 7 09:13:18 2008, in response to Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant (Was: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 7 02:03:53 2008. But...it does matter WHERE the people are fed up. It will be close, but Obama will still win in spite of the extremists...people in Colorado, New Mexico, and Iowa aren't fed up enough. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Sep 7 09:16:17 2008, in response to UH-OH ... Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 7 00:00:32 2008. I don't see why either issue involving either McCain's stepson, or Biden's son, is relevant. No criminal charges have been filed in either case, which would be my threshold...the filing of a criminal charge. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 7 17:52:20 2008, in response to Re: UH-OH ... Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Sep 7 09:16:17 2008. Agreed ... only reason I tossed that one in was because that other thing came up as some sort of issue. Can't wait until this descends into who's got the most Christian pet. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 7 17:55:00 2008, in response to Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant (Was: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 7 08:22:22 2008. I don't understand why any of this has to get so vicious. But no problem, handle out, I'll wait for the horses. :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Sep 7 18:09:09 2008, in response to Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant (Was: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 7 17:55:00 2008. I don't understand why any of this has to get so vicious. \Hey, I had two posts with someone here yesterday, that I never even had a conversation with, much less even the slightest argument and was told to put a sheet on my head, just because I didn't agree with something he posted. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 7 18:22:09 2008, in response to Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant (Was: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Sep 7 18:09:09 2008. I saw that. :(This is no way to live. One of the reasons why I abstained all summer was that it was getting ugly last winter and was just too well to attend. I've made up my own mind, don't really care what others think. Only reason I've chided in at all was my own attempt to try to draw some conversations to a middle ground by presenting views that aren't even my own, but were intended to get "the other side of this" out there. I now believe I'm wasting my time. There IS no "center" anymore, no compromise, no consensus, and participation is only going to result in physical injury, like my trip to Vermont last week. I'm extremely disappointed in so many ... THANKS for being civil! :) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 7 18:46:38 2008, in response to Re: UH-OH ... Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Sep 7 09:16:17 2008. But you do see where involving the 17 year old daughter of Sarah Palin is relavent, right? Let's take it a step further. If you think that Sarah Palin's daughter getting pregnant is reason for concern about how well she'll do the job of VP if elected - for moral reasons, then how far are you willing to take it?Do you think Mrs. Brown should be disqualified as a junior High School teacher if her daughter gets pregnant? Should Mr. Blue be disqualified & fired from his job as a police officer because his son is arrested for burglary? Should Mr. Katz lose his hack license because his son stole a car? I had a supervisor who worked for me and who's son was arrested for painting graffiti on a train. Should he have been demoted? Despite the greatest efforts, some children make mistakes in life. The worst thing a parent can do is not be supportive at those times. I don't know about you, but I'll bet that there were times when you screwed up and you were glad that your parents stuck by you and still never felt that they should have to pay the price for your mistakes. You guys need to start thinking like adults and not like political hacks. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 7 18:48:38 2008, in response to Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant (Was: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 7 17:55:00 2008. Hey, bro - look back! It's you that's tossing the grenades. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Sep 7 18:52:46 2008, in response to Re: UH-OH ... Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant, posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 7 18:46:38 2008. I never thought of the daughter as relevant either. Go after those who do...I'm not the one, I have other issues related to Palin, none of which involve the daughter in the equation...and her demeaning of community organizers is what did it for me, swinging me blue...because McCain has said one thing (supporting such organizations), and then picks someone who doesn't see eye-to-eye on it...remember that debate in California?BTW, there are some areas that this would be done...doesn't make it right (and I don't think it's right). And if someone close to me screwed up badly, G*d forbid, they're in my family. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Sep 7 18:53:36 2008, in response to Re: UH-OH ... Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Sep 7 18:52:46 2008. However...WITH THAT SAID, you can usually dismiss an isolated incident. If it's a pattern, however, I'm concerned. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 7 19:00:59 2008, in response to Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant (Was: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 7 18:48:38 2008. You're the one who broke out the dymo and slapped the L-word on me, and it was you who questioned my ethics as though I were part of someone else's pack. In other subthreads, you made other comments that amount to personal attacks. Lemme put it to you this way ... I see that there's no point to continuing this, your mind was made up a long time ago and so is mine.I chose to offer some balance to some very one-sided arguments which have as much truth to them as the other side. But in the end, once all of this shit is done with and the results are in, we're all going to have to find some way to make collective peace with each other (I hope) and what irritates me personally is that your judgements of me are incorrect. The one thing that puts me over the top is being blamed for (or called out on) things I didn't do. I accept full responsibility for those I HAVE done. I just wish that the spin would end and we could discuss substantive things. There's what I miss the most around here. :( The invite is still good for ya, no hard feelings, but the next 8 weeks are gonna suck. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Sep 7 20:16:39 2008, in response to Re: UH-OH ... Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant, posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 7 02:07:56 2008. "So while I was out with my friends shooting pool and having a few brews"while in a state of denial, of course... |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Sep 7 20:50:59 2008, in response to Re: UH-OH ... Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant, posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 7 18:46:38 2008. If you think that Sarah Palin's daughter getting pregnant is reason for concern about how well she'll do the job of VP if elected - for moral reasons, then how far are you willing to take it?But who actually thinks that Palin's daughter's activities have any relevance? Obama has said that it's totally a non-issue. Most people who post here have said it too. Probably a few religious conservatives think she should have controlled her daughter better, but they're not going to vote for Obama anyway. Basically, I think 98% of the country agrees with you - Palin's daughter and Biden's son have nothing whatsoever to do with the campaign. And the ones who don't agree don't read OTChat. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Sep 7 21:40:16 2008, in response to Re: UH-OH ... Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant, posted by AlM on Sun Sep 7 20:50:59 2008. Basically, I think 98% of the country agrees with you - Palin's daughter and Biden's son have nothing whatsoever to do with the campaign.To bad the mainstream media didn't agree with you when she was flung through the mud. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 7 21:41:02 2008, in response to Re: UH-OH ... Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Sep 7 21:40:16 2008. Media's just despondent that Brittney's chained down in rehab. :) |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Sep 7 21:42:35 2008, in response to Re: UH-OH ... Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Sep 7 21:40:16 2008. Then how else do they sell papers? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Sep 7 22:09:43 2008, in response to Re: UH-OH ... Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 7 21:41:02 2008. Well....Sarah is now a bigger celebrity than Brittany, Paris....or Obama.The Republicans thank the media. |
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Re: UH-OH ... Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 7 22:59:12 2008, in response to Re: UH-OH ... Re: Biden's 38 Year Old Son Ain't Pregnant, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Sep 7 22:09:43 2008. Heh. For now. :)(meaning how long will they be thankful) |
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Re: Obama's ''Forgotten'' (Half )Brother(who doesn't want attention) |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Sep 8 10:57:08 2008, in response to Re: Obama's ''Forgotten'' (Half )Brother(who doesn't want attention), posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 5 17:50:21 2008. I think you miss my point. An immediate member of her family has done something that runs directly against her stance on the issue of sex education and the belief system (no sex before marriage, no sex for teenagers) she has that will guide her policy decisions. This reflects poorly on her; if she can't get her family to keep her values, how is she supposed to get the country to do so? |
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Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Sep 8 13:32:07 2008, in response to Re: Obama's Forgotten Brother (was Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant.), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 6 08:11:47 2008. But what's done is done, they had sex, and now she's pregnant, and they plan to marry. So what's the issue? There is none.There are plenty of issues. Even if she thinks she wants to get married, that isn't exactly the most responsible choice for a high school student. I don't think it will all be wedded bliss, either, since Levi doesn't want children. The biggest problem of all, though, is that by wrapping the problem up in a nice little package and making it go away, the Palins have done a great job of glorifying teen pregnancy. |
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Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Sep 8 13:53:42 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Sep 8 13:32:07 2008. Palin is the hypocrite par excellence.Studies show that teen marriages have a very high rate of divorce. However, given the other alternatives, Bristol's getting married qualifies as making the best of a bad situation for the child - that is, it's the best of a group of suboptimal options. The father is an immature young man with poor social skills who could certainly improve and mature, given the right guidance. Too bad the Governor is too busy thumping her Bible in people's faces and running for office to pay attention to her kids needs. |
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Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 8 14:12:04 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by RonInBayside on Mon Sep 8 13:53:42 2008. How old are your kids? |
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Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant. |
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Posted by JohnL on Mon Sep 8 14:19:05 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by RonInBayside on Mon Sep 8 13:53:42 2008. …and running for office to pay attention to her kids needs.Such as making sure that her daughter had information about and access to suitable contraception. |
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Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Sep 8 14:27:01 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 4 00:05:45 2008. McCain, however, by picking Palin, can't claim that he isn't a flip-flopper either. |
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Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 8 14:54:31 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by RonInBayside on Mon Sep 8 13:53:42 2008. How come no one questions Michelle Obama paying attention to her kids needs while she criss-crosses the nation campaigning for her husband? |
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Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Sep 8 15:56:34 2008, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by JohnL on Mon Sep 8 14:19:05 2008. It occurs to me that it is always possible they WERE using birth control, and it failed. |
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Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant. |
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Posted by dand124 on Thu Nov 7 14:42:57 2013, in response to Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by vfrt on Mon Sep 1 13:33:17 2008. bump |
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Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 15:10:07 2013, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by dand124 on Thu Nov 7 14:42:57 2013. Huh? |
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Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 7 15:15:59 2013, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 15:10:07 2013. He's having another psychotic episode. |
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Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant. |
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Posted by dand124 on Thu Nov 7 15:16:19 2013, in response to Re: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 15:10:07 2013. http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=1122194 |
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