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Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 4 13:42:22 2013, in response to Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Nov 4 13:38:34 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
So you're saying that "Christian Zionism" is somehow bad but not bad and I am "selling" it without knowing what it is? Where did you get your ideas about what "Christian Zionism" is, then?

Yes, I really didn't know what "Christian Zionism" was supposed to be until the lefties on here started talking about it.

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Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 4 13:43:58 2013, in response to Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Nov 4 13:39:30 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
How many Hamas people have you known?

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Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 4 13:47:13 2013, in response to Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 4 12:45:13 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
LOL!

A lot of that are "conservatards" who want to get rid of the liberal states.

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Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Nov 4 13:52:31 2013, in response to Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 4 13:43:58 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Needless to say, I wasn't meeting with Hamas members.

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Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 4 13:53:28 2013, in response to Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 4 13:03:30 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Is it merely the belief that the Jews were prophesied to return to Eretz Yisrael (what used to be called Restorationism),

then what happens?

Why don't you tell us about Part II?



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Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Nov 4 13:53:39 2013, in response to Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 4 13:42:22 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Christian Zionism does not look out for the best interests of the Jewish people, it looks out for the best interests of the Christian Zionists.

Your proposals and beliefs concerning the Middle East fit in far better with Christian Zionism than Judaism.

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Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 4 14:26:46 2013, in response to Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Nov 4 13:52:31 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I hope you get the opportunity to do that in a forum where there is no danger to yourself. After asking them about these textbooks, I'd suggest asking them when they're going to allow Jews into their parliament, never mind allow Jews to buy "Palestinian" land.

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Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 4 14:29:04 2013, in response to Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 4 13:47:13 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Nope. Many of them think they're conservative, I'll grant.

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Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 4 14:29:38 2013, in response to Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Nov 4 13:53:39 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
What are you basing those statements on?

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Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Nov 4 14:30:58 2013, in response to Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 4 14:26:46 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You can stop treating me like an ignoramus any time you'd like. Do you really think I have no clue what Hamas stands for?

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Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Nov 4 14:31:23 2013, in response to Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 4 14:29:38 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Your own posts. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.

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Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 4 15:21:31 2013, in response to Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 4 14:29:04 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Nope to what?

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Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 4 15:32:29 2013, in response to Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Nov 4 14:31:23 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Circular argument. What are you basing your viewpoint of "my posts" on? You haven't made it clear what you think "Christian Zionism" is.

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Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Nov 4 16:02:50 2013, in response to Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 4 15:32:29 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Can you be any less of an ass?

Christian Zionism is the belief that the return of the Jews to the Holy Land and the creation of the State of Israel were prophesied. Many also go on to say that Christian Zionists believe this is a prerequisite for the second coming of Jesus, and that Jews should convert to Christianity so as to be saved when the end of days arrives.

You've admitted you believe in the first statement in this thread, and you've done nothing to deny the second statement whenever it has come up in the past.

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Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate

Posted by AlM on Mon Nov 4 16:13:56 2013, in response to Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Nov 4 16:02:50 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Not to be picky or anything, but I think you have 3 or 4 statements there. :)


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Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 4 18:31:25 2013, in response to Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Nov 4 16:02:50 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
and that Jews should convert to Christianity so as to be saved when the end of days arrives

That last part of the second paragraph is BS. I certainly do not advocate it myself, because any such conversion is to happen after the Messiah's coming anyhow.

So where did you lift this from? Such a thing is not in any way a common belief among Christians at all, especially what is regarded to be conservative Protestantism. I can't see a single page online that is outside of the wackjob websites that cites this as true; not even any of the links in the Wikipedia article with respect to this claim go to any websites in the mainstream, never mind unbiased scholarly articles.

The belief concerning Jews returning to Israel and creating their own state being prophesied is not exclusive to Christianity either; it's in several places in the Tanakh, most notably Zechariah 14.

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Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Nov 5 01:51:46 2013, in response to Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 4 18:31:25 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You don't seem to see it, but there is a difference between Jews saying they will return to Israel so as to bring the end of days and another religious group saying they need the Jews to return to Israel to bring the end of days.

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Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Nov 5 02:31:11 2013, in response to Re: Hamas using their own textbooks to brainwash schoolkids, teach false history and hate, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Nov 5 01:51:46 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Exactly.

Christian Zionists want Jews to rebuild the Temple which is then supposed to bring the return of Christ.

Then Jews must either convert or perish. To Christian Zionists, the Jews are but mere pawns to their delusional big picture.
It's why they love Israel but hate Jews.

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