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18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 22 04:04:56 2013

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Obamacare and the Yoonyuns did this to them

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 22 04:31:19 2013, in response to 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 22 04:04:56 2013.

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The smoking crater of KMart. No surprise. :(

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Oct 22 04:58:14 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 22 04:31:19 2013.

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i am gonna miss sears if it goes away

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by Fred G on Tue Oct 22 05:43:25 2013, in response to 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 22 04:04:56 2013.

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Sears just ain't got it anymore. Looks like they need to oust somebody, or just go tits up.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by SubwaySurf on Tue Oct 22 08:46:18 2013, in response to 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 22 04:04:56 2013.

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Sears has been a mess for many years. Place the blame where
It belongs on there lackluster management. Also, don't forget Sears has been owned by K mart for a number of years now.


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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 22 09:00:20 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by SubwaySurf on Tue Oct 22 08:46:18 2013.

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Place the blame where
It belongs on there lackluster management.


That cannot be.

I thought Obamacare and the yoonyuns were the cause for all corporate incompetence out there.

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by bingbong on Tue Oct 22 09:06:28 2013, in response to 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 22 04:04:56 2013.

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The most surprising thing is that this decline began some 30 years ago. Yet they handg on.


BTW, it's Sears that owns Kmart, not the other way around. Bankruptcy acquisition.

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Oct 22 09:30:23 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by bingbong on Tue Oct 22 09:06:28 2013.

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BTW, it's Sears that owns Kmart, not the other way around. Bankruptcy acquisition.

Nope. It was Kmart that purchased Sears.

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by SubwaySurf on Tue Oct 22 09:34:41 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 22 09:00:20 2013.

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Sorry but it's a fact. All other major retailers are affected by ACA and unions. Sears has been a mess for almost 30 yeArs now and their present owners are not any help

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by SubwaySurf on Tue Oct 22 09:35:17 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 22 09:00:20 2013.

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Sorry but it's a fact. All other major retailers are affected by ACA and unions. Sears has been a mess for almost 30 yeArs now and their present owners are not any help

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by bingbong on Tue Oct 22 09:50:13 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Oct 22 09:30:23 2013.

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Oops. Thought it was the other way around.

Does explain why the stores have that bankruptcy-closeout feel to them.

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Oct 22 10:02:49 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Oct 22 04:58:14 2013.

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Sears of the past is GONE!! K-Mart Corp. bought Sears, Roebuck & Company.

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Oct 22 10:05:49 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by Fred G on Tue Oct 22 05:43:25 2013.

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As I posted earlier, K-Mart Corp bought Sears Roebuck & Company. Sears ain't Sears any more.

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 22 10:21:18 2013, in response to 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 22 04:04:56 2013.

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"What’s the deal in the back of this electronics department?" Sozzi asks. "Does Best Buy look like this? Or, how about the electronics sections at Wal-Mart, Target, Costco, and BJ’s Wholesale? Nope.

The one at Walmart does. Usually it actually looks like a bomb went off in WalMart. Sears stores may be depressing next to Macy's, etc, but then again, you are also not paying Macy's prices.
That said, as depressing as Sears stores are, they don't come close to looking as utilitarian as Walmart stores do.

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 22 10:22:13 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by bingbong on Tue Oct 22 09:06:28 2013.

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Uhm, no, KMART bought SEARS, not the other way around.

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 22 10:23:23 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by SubwaySurf on Tue Oct 22 08:46:18 2013.

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Sears began it's decline before KMart bought them, that's one of the reasons KMart bought them, but that said, it certainly hasn't gotten better.

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 22 10:24:25 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 22 04:31:19 2013.

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It was in decline before KMart bought them. That said, KMart stores seem more organized, but then again, Sears is a slightly different type of store.

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 22 10:24:53 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Oct 22 10:02:49 2013.

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And?
Sears was in trouble for years BEFORE KMart bought them.

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 22 10:31:23 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Oct 22 10:02:49 2013.

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Companies come and go and new ones emerge.

Feel so attached to the past? Go shop at Sears.

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Oct 22 10:32:18 2013, in response to 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 22 04:04:56 2013.

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 22 10:36:08 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 22 10:24:25 2013.

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Yeah.

KMarts are more like the old Woolworth's stores.

Different competitors from Sears.

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 22 10:39:20 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Oct 22 10:32:18 2013.

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HAHA!!

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by cortelyounext on Tue Oct 22 10:43:01 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 22 10:31:23 2013.

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Here is a picture of the Sears Roebuck in Hackensack I used to go to when I was a tike. It is not too far from the USS Ling submarine that is berthed in the Hackensack River - I want to become a docent on that thing and in time I will. I ate at the venerable which means great Heritage Diner a couple years ago and I saw one of those docents or at least I think it was one of those docents fishing from the bow of the USS Ling. It was ludicrous.


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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 22 10:59:41 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 22 10:36:08 2013.

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Yes. KMart is more like Woolco (Which Woolworth owned), KMart was Kresge's version of Woolco.
They are a slightly different class of stores. Comparing Sears to KMart is like when people were trying to compare WalMart to Costco, even if less extremely different than that comparison.

I would say Kohl's is more of a competitor to Sears than WalMart would be.

Kohl's - Sears, same level competitor (close)
KMart - Walmart - Target, same level competitor
Costco - BJ's - Sam's Club same level competitor

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 22 11:00:47 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 22 10:36:08 2013.

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Yes. KMart is more like Woolco (Which Woolworth owned), KMart was Kresge's version of Woolco.
They are a slightly different class of stores. Comparing Sears to KMart is like when people were trying to compare WalMart to Costco, even if less extremely different than that comparison.

I would say Kohl's is more of a competitor to Sears than WalMart would be.

Kohl's - Sears, same level competitor (close)
KMart - Walmart - Target, same level competitor
Costco - BJ's - Sam's Club same level competitor
Macy's - JC Penny - Bloomingdales, same level competitor

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by JohnnyMints on Tue Oct 22 11:25:09 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by cortelyounext on Tue Oct 22 10:43:01 2013.

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That is a local landmark; a few blocks from the bus terminal and a major transfer point itself (Main & Anderson Streets).

It looks pretty sad now; a shame that all the windows were cemented in. While active downtown department stores are something of a throwback and I hate seeing whatever ones are left close, I can't wait for this Sears to close up and another owner move in and renovate this building into a gem.

No reason why it can't be another department store though - look at Century 21 which opened across from the Morristown Green.

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by JohnnyMints on Tue Oct 22 11:27:04 2013, in response to 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 22 04:04:56 2013.

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You mean there's no more for your life at Sears?


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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by JohnnyMints on Tue Oct 22 11:32:03 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Oct 22 10:32:18 2013.

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LOL!

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by Fred G on Tue Oct 22 11:36:09 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Oct 22 10:32:18 2013.

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Haha, perfect!

your pal,
Fred

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Oct 22 21:43:07 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 22 10:59:41 2013.

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Good analysis

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by Elkeeper on Tue Oct 22 22:22:49 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by JohnnyMints on Tue Oct 22 11:25:09 2013.

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I remember when the Hackensack Sears used to sell VW's, before they developed a national dealer network! Hackensack was a great place to shop in the 1950's and early 60's. The trouble with Hackensack was that the malls killed its downtown. Even the theatres are gone. Plus, having Riverside Square just north of it didn't help. But, that said, even the Paramus Park Sears is like a morgue on weekdays. Ditto for the Paramus K-Mart. I think that Sears/K-Mart will both go under together.

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 22 22:26:03 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by Elkeeper on Tue Oct 22 22:22:49 2013.

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They kinda have to ... they're the same company now. :)

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by busdude2 on Wed Oct 23 04:52:30 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by cortelyounext on Tue Oct 22 10:43:01 2013.

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Looks like you almost got a red light runner too.

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Misleading (Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears)

Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Oct 23 09:20:35 2013, in response to 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 22 04:04:56 2013.

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I think the photos and the articles are misleading. Where exactly were the outlets where the photos were taken? The article says only in "New York and New Jersey". But where, exactly? The Bronx? Newark?

Truth is, many stores located in lower-income areas are not maintained nor stocked properly when compared to stores in higher-income areas. For example, you would expect a Sears or any other store to be better maintained in an area like Bayside or Glen Oaks in Queens or East Meadow in Nassau than in some parts of Brooklyn or the Bronx. Ditto Jersey.

I don't think you can generalize the condition of the entire Sears organization by the condition of a few stores in New York and New Jersey.

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by pd11604 on Wed Oct 23 21:07:17 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by busdude2 on Wed Oct 23 04:52:30 2013.

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haha the first red light camera?

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by pd11604 on Wed Oct 23 21:10:01 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by Fred G on Tue Oct 22 05:43:25 2013.

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You couldn't beat Sears Craftsman tools - made in the USA and guranteed for life

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 23 21:40:45 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by pd11604 on Wed Oct 23 21:10:01 2013.

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But they're the worst crap imaginable now. :(

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Re: Misleading (Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears)

Posted by NorthShore on Thu Oct 24 00:30:40 2013, in response to Misleading (Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears), posted by Mitch45 on Wed Oct 23 09:20:35 2013.

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The K-Mart that replaced Bloomingdale's in Fresh Meadows, Queens was a mismanaged dump.Nobody shopped there after awhile.
It was replaced by Kohl's, which is well run and successful.

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 24 01:00:13 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by busdude2 on Wed Oct 23 04:52:30 2013.

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The light is clearly yellow.

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by TonyG on Thu Oct 24 01:29:08 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 22 10:23:23 2013.

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The new strategy with both Sears and KMart is to close their stores when the leases expire. Both chains are slowly dying.

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 24 02:14:09 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by TonyG on Thu Oct 24 01:29:08 2013.

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Your favorite politicians are slowly killing them.

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 24 02:24:48 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 24 02:14:09 2013.

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False!

http://www.blindbatnews.com/2011/12/corporate-evil-sears-kmart-connected-to-romneys-bain-capital-bain-capital-working-with-carlyle-group/9887

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Re: Misleading (Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears)

Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Oct 24 06:34:24 2013, in response to Re: Misleading (Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears), posted by NorthShore on Thu Oct 24 00:30:40 2013.

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That may be so, but the condition of one store is not a sufficient basis to condemn an entire chain.

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 24 09:42:49 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by TonyG on Thu Oct 24 01:29:08 2013.

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The Sears Hardware stores are closing little by little. Sears Hardware were started in the 90's when the mega-home improvement places took off. They are really nice if you just need simple stuff like paint or a paintbrush, tools, etc. Two have closed in the last two years, and we still have one nearby, but as mentioned, they are probably riding out the lease.

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 24 09:43:55 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 24 02:24:48 2013.

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Blind bat news? LOL, yeah, I want to waste my time clicking on such nonsense.

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 24 09:45:35 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by busdude2 on Wed Oct 23 04:52:30 2013.

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All four tires are in the intersection and it's still yellow. Totally legal, totally fine. Red means stop, not yellow.

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Re: Misleading (Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 24 09:47:52 2013, in response to Re: Misleading (Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears), posted by NorthShore on Thu Oct 24 00:30:40 2013.

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K-Mart and Bloomingdales aren't even the same level type of store. Neither are K-Mart and Kohl's.

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by bingbong on Thu Oct 24 11:19:11 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 24 09:45:35 2013.

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Don't try that in Garden City. The ticket WILL stick.

There are plenty of municipalities that have stop at yellow laws. Be forewarned.

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 24 12:04:37 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by bingbong on Thu Oct 24 11:19:11 2013.

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Garden City? Please provide proof of this claim. Yellow lights are NOT red lights. Red light cameras give tickets when all four tires have NOT entered the intersection when the light turns red.
Most have laws that state you must stop for a yellow light unless you have passed the point of no return.
Please proved proof of your claim for "Garden City", that this is NOT the case. As well as the "plenty of municipalities that have stop at yellow laws".

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Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 24 12:16:18 2013, in response to Re: 18 Depressing Photos Showing Why Nobody Shops at Sears, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 24 12:04:37 2013.

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Especially as the rules regarding traffic lights are STATE law and are not superseded by municipalities.

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