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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Oct 1 12:10:59 2013 From the NYDAILYNEWS.COM: 'Because you’re black': Framboise Patisserie in Middle Village, Queens, hit with $25,000 in fines, penalties in discrimination case 'I can’t hire you because you’re black,' Jamilah DaCosta, 25, said she was told when she tried to get a job at the bakery. By Nathan Place AND Erin Durkin / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Sunday, September 29, 2013, 2:30 AM At the Framboise Patisserie in Middle Village, Queens, the pastries are elegant, the cakes are custom-made — and city officials say the hiring is discriminatory. “I can’t hire you because you’re black,” Jamilah DaCosta, 25, said she heard when she applied for a job working the counter at the cozy French bake shop. The Rego Park woman interviewed with co-owner Patty Meimetea in October 2011 but was told she wouldn’t be a good fit for the “counter girl” position because black workers in the front of the store would scare away customers, according to findings by the city Human Rights Commission. After an investigation and a trial, the commission last week fined the bakery $25,000 for racial and gender discrimination for weeding out DaCosta because of her race and discouraging men from applying for the job with a gender-specific “counter girl” ad on Craigslist. “I felt hurt. I was disgusted,” DaCosta said of her experience at Framboise Patisserie. “Before I could even pull out my resume or start a formal interview, she was telling me all this negative stuff — she couldn’t hire me because I was black, I would scare away her customers.” According to DaCosta and the commission, when DaCosta came in for the interview, Meimetea quickly started quizzing her about her nationality. DaCosta said she was American, but after the owner pressed her, she said she was Jamaican and Lebanese, according to the decision. She told DaCosta her husband would be angry if she hired a black worker for the counter — and said she would hire her if there were a job open in the kitchen, where no one would see her. She also suggested applying for a job at another Queens bakery where bosses wouldn’t care what the workers look like — and told DaCosta to look at the pictures hanging around the bakery, pointing out they were all of white people. A shaken DaCosta cried in her car after the disastrous interview. “They’re not judging me on my personality, but my skin color. What century are we living in?” she said. “I thought I had thick skin, I thought I could withstand anything, but it just completely broke me down.” The owners denied making racist remarks — and insist DaCosta is lying. “Of course this is not true,” Meimetea said in a brief interview. Meimetea’s husband and co-owner AJ Saputhanthri said that DaCosta was not hired because the shop had already filled the position and added that DaCosta didn’t have the necessary experience. “I can’t hire somebody who worked at McDonald’s,” he said. “She don’t even know what is the cookie dough.” Saputhanthri added that he found any charges of racism absurd, because he himself is from Sri Lanka. “I want the human rights judge to look at me and tell me I look like a white,” he said. Saputhanthri even accused DaCosta herself of racism, saying she assumed his wife, Meimetea, was racist because she looked white. Meimetea is Greek. “It’s never true. I swear to you,” he said. “I respect everybody. I don’t do anything bad to people.” “They want only money,” he said of city officials. “I’m a simple man living simple, working hard ... They want to take my money away.” The commission found the pair’s denials weren’t credible, noting they admitted they had never hired a black person or a man to work the counter in the three years they had been in business, though Saputhanthri said the bakery now has two black employees, including one at the counter. “Respondents’ actions were blatant violations,” the commission wrote in its decision. “Meimetea’s statements to Ms. DaCosta were cruelly and flagrantly bigoted and demeaning.” The $25,000 penalty the commission ordered the bakery to pay includes $10,000 in damages to DaCosta, a $10,000 fine for racial discrimination for the shop’s treatment of DaCosta, and a $5,000 fine for gender discrimination for the “counter girl” ad. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Oct 1 12:20:47 2013, in response to Racism at bakery in Middle Village, Queens, NY, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Oct 1 12:10:59 2013. CRAZY STORY.I'VE BEEN TO A COFFEE SHOP ACROSS THE STREET, CALL "TIRAMISU", BUT NEVER WENT INTO THIS BAKERY. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Oct 1 12:32:11 2013, in response to Re: Racism at bakery in Middle Village, Queens, NY, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Oct 1 12:20:47 2013. Why are you using CAPS? thanks for ATTACKING! |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Oct 1 12:43:14 2013, in response to Re: Racism at bakery in Middle Village, Queens, NY, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Oct 1 12:32:11 2013. The story sounds amazing.Either the girl made up a bullshit story that was believed and she won the money, or the owners are the stupidest business owners in Queens. If you are not going to hire someone based on skin color, I can't see being stupid enough to tell them to their face. I bet this girl worked at the Rego Park McDonald's on 63rd @ Queens Blvd, which went out of business about two years ago when this happened. CAPS LOCK will be back. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Oct 1 13:05:23 2013, in response to Re: Racism at bakery in Middle Village, Queens, NY, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Oct 1 12:43:14 2013. "If you are not going to hire someone based on skin color, I can't see being stupid enough to tell them to their face."Well...they were stupid enough to place an ad in CRAIGLIST looking for COUNTER-GIRL ONLY. That's sexism right there. That's against the law so I don't doubt about the race part. THIW Luchie. The owner is full of shit or his wife is. What about the McDonalds across the street from the Queens Center Mall? eh? if the other one closed down, it was because of poor franchise management. THIW. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Oct 1 13:13:40 2013, in response to Re: Racism at bakery in Middle Village, Queens, NY, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Oct 1 12:43:14 2013. When Human Rights investigates complaints, they send someone in wearing a wire.A friend of my wife's earns some extra money doing that. She says people go to depositions and swear they never said any such thing, and then the recording gets played. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Oct 1 17:23:01 2013, in response to Re: Racism at bakery in Middle Village, Queens, NY, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Oct 1 13:05:23 2013. What about the McDonalds across the street from the Queens Center Mall? eh? if the other one closed down, it was because of poor franchise management. THIW.They closed down because of the rent. It's the same owner who owned the one on 108 and 64th Ave. The landlord wanted $50,000 a month and McDonald's just closed down instead. Thanks for participating. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Oct 1 17:30:34 2013, in response to Re: Racism at bakery in Middle Village, Queens, NY, posted by AlM on Tue Oct 1 13:13:40 2013. When Human Rights investigates complaints, they send someone in wearing a wire.I missed the part in the article where it was mentioned that the evidence was taped. I'm sure they didn't want a black girl and a mom-and-pop store in an all white neighborhood, but find it hard to believe they were stupid enough to say it to her face. But you never know. A friend of my wife's earns some extra money doing that Siciliana. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Oct 4 02:28:29 2013, in response to Racism at bakery in Middle Village, Queens, NY, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Oct 1 12:10:59 2013. Hey streetcarmanl,I drove by this bakery tonight. It's the old Kopp's Bakery, which closed a few years ago, and these people in the article took over. I don't think I'll be having a coffee and pastry there tomorrow because I won't do that. I have other plans before heading home to Tampa. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Oct 4 08:38:02 2013, in response to Re: Racism at bakery in Middle Village, Queens, NY, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Oct 1 17:30:34 2013. Nope. WASP. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Oct 4 08:52:26 2013, in response to Re: Racism at bakery in Middle Village, Queens, NY, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Oct 1 13:05:23 2013. There's a big difference in hiring someone based on ethnic and putting an add for counter-girl. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 4 09:25:02 2013, in response to Re: Racism at bakery in Middle Village, Queens, NY, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Oct 4 08:52:26 2013. Maybe he considers it sex discrimination when strip clubs hire only women (or only men, they have those too). |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Oct 4 10:47:34 2013, in response to Re: Racism at bakery in Middle Village, Queens, NY, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Oct 4 08:52:26 2013. "There's a big difference in hiring someone based on ethnic and putting an add for counter-girl."oh really? anyone who works for a company, large or small can see and the federal and state laws that bar companies from any discrimination. There should be no difference. Ask any labor lawyer that you of . |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Oct 4 10:50:38 2013, in response to Re: Racism at bakery in Middle Village, Queens, NY, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 4 09:25:02 2013. That's not for me to decide, that is the state and federal goverments to look after business to follow the workplace laws. THIW |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Oct 4 10:50:55 2013, in response to Re: Racism at bakery in Middle Village, Queens, NY, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 4 09:25:02 2013. That's not for me to decide, that is up to state and federal goverments to look after businesses to follow the workplace laws. THIW |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Oct 4 10:51:51 2013, in response to Re: Racism at bakery in Middle Village, Queens, NY, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Oct 1 17:23:01 2013. Sounds like supply and demand at work. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 4 12:56:37 2013, in response to Re: Racism at bakery in Middle Village, Queens, NY, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Oct 4 10:50:38 2013. LOL! So you do believe it to be discriminatory to have strip clubs with all female strippers! |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Oct 4 13:17:04 2013, in response to Re: Racism at bakery in Middle Village, Queens, NY, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 4 12:56:37 2013. That's not for me to decide, that is the state and federal goverments to look after business to follow the workplace laws. THIW |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Oct 4 13:17:08 2013, in response to Re: Racism at bakery in Middle Village, Queens, NY, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 4 12:56:37 2013. That's not for me to decide, that is the state and federal goverments to look after business to follow the workplace laws. THIW |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Oct 4 13:17:11 2013, in response to Re: Racism at bakery in Middle Village, Queens, NY, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 4 12:56:37 2013. That's not for me to decide, that is the state and federal goverments to look after business to follow the workplace laws. THIW |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 4 14:24:02 2013, in response to Re: Racism at bakery in Middle Village, Queens, NY, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Oct 4 13:17:04 2013. FALSE! |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Oct 4 14:42:27 2013, in response to Re: Racism at bakery in Middle Village, Queens, NY, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 4 14:24:02 2013. TRUE! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 4 15:10:14 2013, in response to Re: Racism at bakery in Middle Village, Queens, NY, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Oct 4 14:42:27 2013. Yes. My statement that your statement is false is true. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Fri Oct 4 15:13:11 2013, in response to Re: Racism at bakery in Middle Village, Queens, NY, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 4 15:10:14 2013. Just let it go. As sure as the sun rises in the east you are going to get defeated in this thread. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Oct 4 15:16:44 2013, in response to Re: Racism at bakery in Middle Village, Queens, NY, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Oct 4 13:17:04 2013. He's asking what YOU believe, not what the laws are. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 7 13:17:12 2026, in response to Racism at bakery in Middle Village, Queens, NY, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Oct 1 12:10:59 2013. This bakery is still around. And owned by the same people. More fake news. |
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