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Uh oh ... MORE bad news for the GOP. And from their OWN! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 18 21:20:25 2013 That immigration bill that they don't want? Turns out that'll fix the deficit faster than killing Obamacare, medicare and social security combined. Whoops! :)http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/19/us/politics/boehner-says-he-wont-push-through-an-immigration-bill.html Excerpt: Headline: Immigration Law Changes Seen Cutting Billions From Deficit WASHINGTON — Congressional budget analysts, providing a positive economic assessment of proposed immigration law changes, said Tuesday that legislation to overhaul the nation’s immigration system would cut close to $1 trillion from the federal deficit over the next two decades and lead to more than 10 million new legal residents in the country. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 18 22:00:29 2013, in response to Uh oh ... MORE bad news for the GOP. And from their OWN!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 18 21:20:25 2013. But, that's the New York Times! If they can't get the minutiae of transit right, how can they get anything right? :-) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 18 22:04:48 2013, in response to Re: Uh oh ... MORE bad news for the GOP. And from their OWN!, posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 18 22:00:29 2013. Heh. Conservatards won't read it anyway. :) |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jun 19 08:25:55 2013, in response to Uh oh ... MORE bad news for the GOP. And from their OWN!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 18 21:20:25 2013. If you're worried that the defiict will drop too much, don't. Boehner announced that the bill won't come to the House floor unless a majority of Republicans agree. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Jun 19 09:23:50 2013, in response to Re: Uh oh ... MORE bad news for the GOP. And from their OWN!, posted by AlM on Wed Jun 19 08:25:55 2013. The bill is dead.That's good. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Jun 19 11:30:20 2013, in response to Re: Uh oh ... MORE bad news for the GOP. And from their OWN!, posted by SMAZ on Wed Jun 19 09:23:50 2013. They are continuing the War on Women.They will not produce a viable passable immigration bill. Keeping those 2 actions in mind should frame the debate for the midterms. Then maybe we can get something done. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jun 19 12:02:11 2013, in response to Re: Uh oh ... MORE bad news for the GOP. And from their OWN!, posted by bingbong on Wed Jun 19 11:30:20 2013. Democrats have a huge hurdle in 2014.1 million more people voted Democratic than Republican for the House in 2012. Yet the margin in the Republicans' 218th-best seat was over 5%. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Jun 19 13:14:31 2013, in response to Re: Uh oh ... MORE bad news for the GOP. And from their OWN!, posted by AlM on Wed Jun 19 12:02:11 2013. Agreed. However, my hopeful expectation is that by demoralizing the republicans many will just stay home and shoot their guns instead. Hopefully EMT and rescue personnel will see this coming and vote Democratic (after all the republicans will just lay them off through budget cuts) early. |
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Re: Uh oh . . . MORE bad lies from the NYT . . . |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 19 14:08:24 2013, in response to Uh oh ... MORE bad news for the GOP. And from their OWN!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 18 21:20:25 2013. Since when does the CBO be beholden to any party?It's impossible for an influx of welfare recipients to "reduce the deficit". |
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Re: Uh oh . . . MORE bad lies from the NYT . . . |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jun 19 14:14:59 2013, in response to Re: Uh oh . . . MORE bad lies from the NYT . . ., posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 19 14:08:24 2013. It's impossible for an influx of welfare recipients to "reduce the deficit".True. So if immigrants reduce the deficit and welfare recipients increase the deficit, one can easily conclude that ... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 19 14:54:04 2013, in response to Re: Uh oh ... MORE bad news for the GOP. And from their OWN!, posted by AlM on Wed Jun 19 08:25:55 2013. Oh, I wasn't worried a bit. I have faith in republitards. :) |
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Re: Uh oh . . . MORE bad lies from the NYT . . . |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 19 15:32:45 2013, in response to Re: Uh oh . . . MORE bad lies from the NYT . . ., posted by AlM on Wed Jun 19 14:14:59 2013. Good one ... he'll never get it. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 19 15:33:15 2013, in response to Re: Uh oh . . . MORE bad lies from the NYT . . ., posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 19 14:08:24 2013. Thank you for asserting that CBO is non-partisan! Only makes the republicans look dumber. :) |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Jun 19 15:49:26 2013, in response to Re: Uh oh . . . MORE bad lies from the NYT . . ., posted by AlM on Wed Jun 19 14:14:59 2013. one can easily conclude that ...The CBO is wrong and out of touch with reality. Duh! :-) |
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Uh oh ... MORE bad news for the Dems. And from their OWN! |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 19 15:59:22 2013, in response to Uh oh ... MORE bad news for the GOP. And from their OWN!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 18 21:20:25 2013. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/19/estimate-shows-wages-would-drop-under-senate-immigration-bill-despite-economic/The CBO also has an awful track record on predicting the impact on the affect a spending bill will have on the deficit. They got Medicare part D dead wrong. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 19 16:04:30 2013, in response to Uh oh ... MORE bad news for the Dems. And from their OWN!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 19 15:59:22 2013. And yet, Boehner and co. use them as the church of fact when they talk up their stuff. Gotta love it. :) |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Jun 19 16:12:45 2013, in response to Uh oh ... MORE bad news for the Dems. And from their OWN!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 19 15:59:22 2013. LOL!! Medicare part D is half of the bush deficit. Had it not been wrapped into ACA with its emphasis on cost controls we'd be going twice as bankrupt now.If anything, they underestimated the cost of all those on patent name brand drugs. With a republican FDA we'd have "reformulated" drugs (like they attempted to with Fosamax and Lipitor) actually getting patents and robbing the taxpayers blind. For which they would come up with some other $500/month drug to treat, along with x for this side effect, Y for that side effect, Z for..... |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 19 16:12:46 2013, in response to Re: Uh oh ... MORE bad news for the Dems. And from their OWN!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 19 16:04:30 2013. Everyone uses the CBO to legitimize their pet legislation. It's the reason they exist. The CBO's scoring of the immigration bill is a mixed bag, but you're ignoring that. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 19 16:27:08 2013, in response to Re: Uh oh ... MORE bad news for the Dems. And from their OWN!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 19 16:12:46 2013. They're also the official accounting arm of congress. If they're so bad, why doesn't Boehner do something about them? Oh yeah ... DO something beyond abortion and repealing Obamacare. Nevermind. :) |
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