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CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 17 07:27:28 2013 17 points with 18-29 year oldsNot even post Katrina did Bush see a drop like that. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 17 08:21:55 2013, in response to CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 17 07:27:28 2013. I credit the NSA revelations for the most part.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 17 09:10:39 2013, in response to CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 17 07:27:28 2013. Perhaps the high unemployment rate for that same age group has something to do with it now that they are graduating and facing that bleak job market. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 17 09:18:35 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 17 09:10:39 2013. They'll never blame him for anything job related. He's a cult of personality, and their support is based entirely in emotion. Showing him as a 2-faced hypocrite who crushed dissent (i.e. Nixon) is what is undermining the support. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 17 09:26:37 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 17 09:18:35 2013. Perhaps! But he's not crushed dissent yet. There's still plenty going around. His use of social media and behavioral scientists to manipulate the vote in 2012 was brilliant, none the less. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 17 09:35:08 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 17 09:10:39 2013. Fiscal policy is done by Congress, not the President.-House Is Republican. -Out of control filibusters have the Senate controlled by Republicans. -SS Tax went up by 2 percentage points, which limits consumer spending, 70% of the economy. Republicans were fine with it. -Sequester limits consumer spending, 70% of the economy. Republicans are fine with it. - High unemployment rate of college grads is due to all of the above plus outsourcing of entry level jobs to India and China, which Republicans tax policies encourage, and Republicans are fine with it. Obamacare allows adults to stay on their parent's health insurance until 26. Republicans want it gone. Conclusion: Republicans are their own worst enemy. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 17 09:40:14 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 17 09:35:08 2013. Sequester cuts only limited increases in spending and were targetted by the president to be painful. As for the rest, you are parroting our upstate know-it-not. What happened to all the shovel ready jobs that were not quite shovel ready? The left should at least be consistent with their rhetoric. When the president said that he was going to cut unemployment, I didn't hear you say"Fiscal policy is done by Congress, not the President. -House Is Republican. -Out of control filibusters have the Senate controlled by Republicans. -SS Tax went up by 2 percentage points, which limits consumer spending, 70% of the economy. Republicans were fine with it. -Sequester limits consumer spending, 70% of the economy. Republicans are fine with it." |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 17 12:53:44 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 17 09:40:14 2013. ( Sequester cuts only limited increases in spending )Is that so ? Tell that to all the private sector contractors who have a furlough day every week or two. Stimulus was far too small to cut unemployment rate. 38th of it went to useless tax rebate. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jun 17 13:15:19 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 17 12:53:44 2013. But Obama has created millions and millions of jobs even though SSI rolls are past 10 million and food stamp usage is at its highest :) |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 17 13:25:53 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 17 12:53:44 2013. ( Sequester cuts only limited increases in spending )That is somewhat accurate. The reason the sequester was felt deeper than it should have was because it got started halfway through the fiscal year. What the sequester does is to have an actual cut the first year, then leave those cuts in place other than very small increases due to population growth and inflation. It's like somebody having a $100 cable bill and cutting it to a cheaper plan at $80 and leaving it there for the next 10 years (other than inflation increases). Over ten years, that family would realize $2400 in inflation-adjusted savings over what their bill would have otherwise been. Of course, if everybody did that, in the first year, cable companies would have to lay people off because of a 20% drop in gross revenue. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 17 13:26:37 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jun 17 13:15:19 2013. Net job creation during Dubya's years was what ? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 17 13:33:33 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 17 13:26:37 2013. ?????????????????????????????????????What does Bush have to do with Obama's failed presidency? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 17 13:48:09 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 17 13:33:33 2013. Everything. Except for what Boehner and McConnell and friends ramped up from there. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 17 13:52:23 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 17 13:33:33 2013. Simple....bush left a smoldering crater. President Obama came into office with the task to fix it. The existing republicans will not allow that. The President has the correct policies but can't implement them without cooperation from Congress. Then we have Congress, specifically the House,passing stupid laws that go nowhere but take time and resources away from the job that needs to be done, such as 37 votes to repeal ACA/Obamacare, despite everyone involved knowing it would go nowhere.President Obama is not a fail. Those around him, specifically the republicans, seek to destroy the country. Their obstructionism is proof. They don't care about Americans, just what they can steal from them. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 17 13:56:04 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 17 13:33:33 2013. I consider Obama an exceptionally good presidency.- ended Iraq war - ended a financial collapse - reversed $1T annual deficits from Bush - enacted universal healthcare |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 17 13:57:36 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 17 13:56:04 2013. The best President in the last 60 years. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 17 13:57:59 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 17 13:25:53 2013. It also ignores the majority of federal spending: entitlements and debt service. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 17 14:11:19 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 17 13:56:04 2013. Nominated 2 competent Supreme Court justices.Restored American prestige around the world. Agitated the GOP into suicide. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 17 14:12:51 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 17 13:57:36 2013. He is Dwight Eisenhower IIyour pal, Fred |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 17 14:26:41 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 17 14:11:19 2013. Agitated the GOP into suicide.Not so fast. They'll do OK in 2014 because every little thing that goes wrong will benefit them and Obama is pissing off liberals. They could even carry the Senate. But 2016 isn't likely to be very good for them. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 17 14:27:51 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 17 14:12:51 2013. Ike never had to reverse an economic collapse and avert a Depression.Ike never had to destroy al-Qaeda. Ike never devised and signed a universal health care law. Ike could count on 91% marginal tax rates and strong unions to boost tax revenue, good jobs and consumer demand. Ike didn't have racist invective hurled at him. Ike didn't have the Democratic Party trying to sabotage his work. Ike was good but my President, Barack Obama, has far exceeded him under the most trying and dramatic of circumstances. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 17 14:45:06 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 17 14:26:41 2013. Maybe Obama will finally grow a pair and declare them, "enemy combatants." :) |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 17 15:45:14 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 17 14:27:51 2013. I meant in terms of being a moderate republican. In terms of fending off the GOP nuthouse, he's more like Truman.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jun 17 16:06:54 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jun 17 13:15:19 2013. ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jun 17 16:32:20 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jun 17 16:06:54 2013. I have not said anything to you for over a month and you pull me back in, then when I finish up what you started I'm the bully!I can see why you were bullied in your school days, you LIKE it! |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jun 17 16:32:58 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 17 13:48:09 2013. So no hope and change then? |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jun 17 16:35:21 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 17 13:52:23 2013. What ironic is that you yourself stated on these very pages that when Obama had a majority in his first two years in both the senate and house Republicans pulled all sorts of tricks to stop everything through obscure rules and trickery.Now that there is a minority in the house the poor democrats can't do the same thing! This from a group under Nancy Pelosi who pulled all sorts of tricks to get Health Care Reform passed! HEH......... |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jun 17 16:37:07 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 17 13:56:04 2013. I think Obama's legacy will be..-We need to do something -We need a debate -We need a discussion -We need to create councils -We need to blame Bush! Heh! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 17 16:44:09 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jun 17 16:32:58 2013. Nope ... that would ruin the republican party. Better to let America go down the toilet than fix anything. After all, them pesky Hispanic types, and their sympathizers, have to be taught a lesson. :-\ |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jun 17 16:48:53 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jun 17 16:32:20 2013. ??wtf are you talking about now ? lol |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jun 17 16:49:24 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jun 17 16:32:20 2013. ??wtf are you talking about now ? lol |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 17 16:50:27 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jun 17 16:35:21 2013. The House works differently than the Senate. No filibuster in the House. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jun 17 16:50:51 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jun 17 16:37:07 2013. ?? |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Jun 17 19:00:23 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 17 16:44:09 2013. ? |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Jun 17 19:01:44 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 17 13:56:04 2013. ALL TOGETHER NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 17 19:25:21 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Jun 17 19:00:23 2013. ! :) |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Jun 17 19:31:57 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 17 19:25:21 2013. I'm baffled. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 17 19:59:37 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 17 15:45:14 2013. True. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 17 20:05:45 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Jun 17 19:31:57 2013. Republicans have been too busy finding Hispanics to bother with fixing America. And now, they're back to the old abortion stuff again too. Meanwhile, infrastructure is going to hell, no stimulus to create jobs, and yet we have plenty of mad taxpayer money to spend in the Middle East. But that's OK ... go blame Obama instead ... |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 17 20:27:34 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 17 15:45:14 2013. Which brings an amusing point to mind. Truman was the last President to attempt universal healthcare (Nixon only sought to modify existing insurance, giving us all the HMO). In those times, most doctors were republicans. Not so anymore. So why are the republicans so hyperbolic about ACA/Obamacare? |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jun 17 20:53:54 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jun 17 16:49:24 2013. That you are starting a fight with me with the ZZZZZ response, I haven't said a word to you for months but that when I finish up with you, you end up crying and apologizing! |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jun 17 20:56:26 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 17 16:50:27 2013. I don't think the filibuster was the issue that was brought up, it was some other nonsensical excuse made for Obama.Affirmative action at the top of the food chain! |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jun 17 20:58:01 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 17 16:44:09 2013. It was Obama who promised that!I don't break down people by racial types, never has interested me, I know Lefty Libs are obessed with it however :) |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jun 17 20:59:29 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jun 17 16:50:51 2013. Yes, one example:Obama promised to raise the minumum wage for Americans. But in his years in office, nothing, not even a Democratic bill, nothing, but he says :we need to do something! |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Jun 17 22:06:29 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jun 17 20:58:01 2013. Except SelkirkTMO was 100% correct. Blame the GOP they are ones who want to ruin the country. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 17 22:11:28 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jun 17 20:58:01 2013. Then you might want to let your homies in the GOP know about that ... they seem to have pigeonholes for everybody and a vaginal probe where the sun don't shine if you give them any lip. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 17 22:12:18 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jun 17 20:59:29 2013. Yeah, but the good news is that 7-11 now has real squishies. :) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 17 22:19:51 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Jun 17 22:06:29 2013. Yes and we should all take your word for it because dan lawrence is never wrong.W.A.D.L. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jun 17 23:00:28 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jun 17 20:53:54 2013. who is starting a fight ? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jun 17 23:01:16 2013, in response to Re: CNN: Obama's approval rating drops 8 points in 1 month, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jun 17 20:58:01 2013. no shit |
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