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Judge rules against 'America's toughest sheriff' in racial profiling lawsuit |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri May 24 23:27:20 2013  Judge rules against 'America's toughest sheriff' in racial profiling lawsuit PHOENIX (Reuters) - Arizona lawman Joe Arpaio violated the constitutional rights of Latino drivers in his crackdown on illegal immigration, a federal judge found on Friday, and ordered him to stop using race as a factor in law enforcement decisions. The ruling against the Maricopa County sheriff came in response to a class-action lawsuit brought by Hispanic drivers that tested whether police can target illegal immigrants without racially profiling U.S. citizens and legal residents of Hispanic origin. U.S. District Court Judge Murray Snow ruled that the sheriff's policies violated the drivers' constitutional rights and ordered Arpaio's office to cease using race or ancestry as a grounds to stop, detain or hold occupants of vehicles - some of them in crime sweeps dubbed "saturation patrols." "The great weight of the evidence is that all types of saturation patrols at issue in this case incorporated race as a consideration into their operations," Snow said in a written ruling. He added that race had factored into which vehicles the deputies decided to stop, and into who they decided to investigate for immigration violations. The lawsuit contended that Arpaio, who styles himself "America's toughest sheriff," and his officers violated the constitutional rights of both U.S. citizens and legal immigrants alike in their zeal to crack down on people they believe to be in the country illegally. The ruling came days after a U.S. Senate panel approved a landmark comprehensive immigration legislation that would usher in the biggest changes in immigration policy in a generation if passed by Congress. The bill would put 11 million immigrants without legal status on a 13-year path to citizenship while further strengthening security along the porous southwestern border with Mexico. Arpaio declined to comment on the ruling. An attorney representing the sheriff's office said his clients were "deeply disappointed by the ruling" and would lodge an appeal. "The Maricopa County Sheriff's Office has always held the position that they never have used race and never will use race in making a law enforcement decision," attorney Tim Casey told Reuters. "We do disagree with the findings and my clients do intend to appeal, but at the same time ... we will work with the court and with the opposing counsel to comply fully with the letter and the spirit of this order," he added. 'ILLEGAL AND PLAIN UN-AMERICAN' Cecillia Wang, director of the American Civil Liberties Union Immigrants' Rights Project and plaintiffs' counsel, called the judge's ruling "an important victory that will resound far beyond Maricopa County." "Singling people out for traffic stops and detentions simply because they're Latino is illegal and just plain un-American," Wang said after the ruling was made public. "Let this be a warning to anyone who hides behind a badge to wage their own private campaign against Latinos or immigrants that there is no exception in the Constitution for violating people's rights in immigration enforcement." During testimony in the non-jury trial last year, Arpaio said he was against racial profiling and denied his office arrested people because of the color of their skin. The sheriff, who won re-election to a sixth term in November, has been a lightning rod for controversy over his aggressive enforcement of immigration laws in the state, which borders Mexico, as well as an investigation into the validity of President Barack Obama's U.S. birth certificate. The lawsuit was brought against Arpaio and his office on behalf of five Hispanic drivers who said they had been stopped by deputies because of their ethnicity. The plaintiffs, which include the Somos America immigrants' rights coalition and all Latino drivers stopped by the sheriff's office since 2007, were seeking corrective action but not monetary damages. Arpaio has been the subject of other probes and lawsuits. In August, the U.S. Attorney's Office in Arizona said it had closed a criminal investigation into accusations of financial misconduct by Arpaio, and it declined to bring charges. A separate U.S. Justice Department investigation and lawsuit relating to accusations of civil rights abuses by Arpaio's office is ongoing. Arizona has been at the heart of a bitter national debate over immigration since Republican Governor Jan Brewer signed a 2010 crackdown on illegal immigration. The federal government challenged the crackdown in court and said the U.S. Constitution gives it sole authority over immigration policy. The U.S. Supreme Court, however, has allowed to stand the part of the law permitting police to question people they stop about their immigration status. Snow scheduled a hearing in the case for June 14 at 9:30 a.m. at the Sandra Day O'Connor U.S. Federal Courthouse in Phoenix. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri May 24 23:40:32 2013, in response to Judge rules against 'America's toughest sheriff' in racial profiling lawsuit, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri May 24 23:27:20 2013. That's so crazy. Most of the illegal immigrants are Hispanic, but if you do a good job at identifying them then it's somehow racist because the majority caught were Hispanic so you must have profiled. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 24 23:47:47 2013, in response to Judge rules against 'America's toughest sheriff' in racial profiling lawsuit, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri May 24 23:27:20 2013. This was a good week for you in UK and AZ. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat May 25 09:03:08 2013, in response to Re: Judge rules against 'America's toughest sheriff' in racial profiling lawsuit, posted by Easy on Fri May 24 23:40:32 2013. The suit was brought by five legal hispanics who were stopped. If they weren't using profiling how did they end up getting 'caught'?It's the Arizona equivalent to "driving while black". |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 25 09:29:40 2013, in response to Judge rules against 'America's toughest sheriff' in racial profiling lawsuit, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri May 24 23:27:20 2013. What a miscarriage of justice. What a great man. I wish Arpaio was my sheriff. |
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Re: Salaam Should Be Saying Thank You To America's Toughest Sheriff |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 25 09:32:46 2013, in response to Judge rules against 'America's toughest sheriff' in racial profiling lawsuit, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri May 24 23:27:20 2013. Ttile corrected. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sat May 25 09:59:08 2013, in response to Re: Judge rules against 'America's toughest sheriff' in racial profiling lawsuit, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 25 09:29:40 2013. that >>>PIG<<< should be locked up in GEN POP. they'd make a WOMAN out of his macho ass REAL QUICK. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat May 25 10:01:41 2013, in response to Re: Salaam Should Be Saying Thank You To America's Toughest Sheriff, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 25 09:32:46 2013. Wrong. His actions are as un-American as he is.Subject re-corrected. |
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Re: Salaam Should Be Saying Thank You To America's Toughest Sheriff |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sat May 25 10:10:20 2013, in response to Re: Salaam Should Be Saying Thank You To America's Toughest Sheriff, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 25 09:32:46 2013. You really'd LOVE the SS |
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Re: Judge Rules Against 'America's Toughest Sheriff' In Racial Profiling Lawsuit |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat May 25 11:43:48 2013, in response to Re: Salaam Should Be Saying Thank You To America's Toughest Sheriff, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 25 09:32:46 2013. Please one retarded thread title changer is quite enough here. Unless you want to be ologs lap dog. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat May 25 11:51:10 2013, in response to Re: Judge rules against 'America's toughest sheriff' in racial profiling lawsuit, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 25 09:29:40 2013. So move there, then the addle brained old shithead can be your sheriff. You 2 bigots can live happily ever after |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat May 25 11:59:10 2013, in response to Re: Salaam Should Be Saying Thank You To America's Toughest Sheriff, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 25 09:32:46 2013. Please one retarded thread title changer is quite enough here. Unless you want to be ologs lap dog. |
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Re: America's toughest, greatest, best sheriff |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 25 12:10:37 2013, in response to Re: Judge rules against 'America's toughest sheriff' in racial profiling lawsuit, posted by bingbong on Sat May 25 10:01:41 2013. I wish Arpaio was my sheriff. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 25 12:11:55 2013, in response to Re: Judge rules against 'America's toughest sheriff' in racial profiling lawsuit, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat May 25 11:51:10 2013. Not a bad idea. |
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Re: Salaam Should Be Saying Thank You To America's Toughest Sheriff |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 25 12:12:37 2013, in response to Re: Salaam Should Be Saying Thank You To America's Toughest Sheriff, posted by RockParkMan on Sat May 25 10:10:20 2013. Is you name Salaam? |
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Re: America's toughest, greatest, best sheriff |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 25 12:14:48 2013, in response to Re: America's toughest, greatest, best sheriff, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 25 12:10:37 2013. Old man yelling at chair Clint Eastwood is driving the bus ... all aboard! :)
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Posted by bingbong on Sat May 25 12:20:16 2013, in response to Re: Judge rules against 'America's toughest sheriff' in racial profiling lawsuit, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 25 12:11:55 2013. You won't last 2 months there. You'll be targeted as an outsider, and we know what Arapio does to outsiders. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 25 12:37:33 2013, in response to Re: Judge rules against 'America's toughest sheriff' in racial profiling lawsuit, posted by bingbong on Sat May 25 12:20:16 2013. Or as the local paper puts it ... :)http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2010-04-08/news/jew-round-up-they-re-pouring-over-the-canadian-border-to-flood-graduate-schools-and-bank-parking-lots-legislations-from-state-senator-russell-pearce-aims-to-make-them-rue-the-day-they-ever-entered-arizona/ Warning to a certain dumbass rightie from Long Island ... PARODY!!!! NOT REAL NEWS!!!! |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat May 25 13:10:55 2013, in response to Re: Salaam Should Be Saying Thank You To America's Toughest Sheriff, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 25 12:12:37 2013. Is you name olog? |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat May 25 13:14:28 2013, in response to Re: America's toughest, greatest, best sheriff, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 25 12:10:37 2013. Umm, your small minded bigotry is showing, once again. |
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Re: Judge Rules Against 'America's Toughest Sheriff' In Racial Profiling Lawsuit |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat May 25 13:15:47 2013, in response to Re: America's toughest, greatest, best sheriff, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 25 12:14:48 2013. LOL |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat May 25 13:37:56 2013, in response to Re: Judge rules against 'America's toughest sheriff' in racial profiling lawsuit, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 25 09:29:40 2013. i am glad i DONT live in phoenix he is not my man |
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Re: Salaam Should Be Saying Thank You To America's Toughest Sheriff |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat May 25 13:41:02 2013, in response to Re: Salaam Should Be Saying Thank You To America's Toughest Sheriff, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 25 09:32:46 2013. hell no i will not !glad i dont live in phoenix |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat May 25 13:43:37 2013, in response to Re: Judge Rules Against 'America's Toughest Sheriff' In Racial Profiling Lawsuit, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat May 25 13:10:55 2013. LOL ! |
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Posted by TonyG on Sat May 25 14:38:40 2013, in response to Judge rules against 'America's toughest sheriff' in racial profiling lawsuit, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri May 24 23:27:20 2013. I was in that room at the exact moment that the photo you have above was taken. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat May 25 14:40:23 2013, in response to Re: Judge rules against 'America's toughest sheriff' in racial profiling lawsuit, posted by TonyG on Sat May 25 14:38:40 2013. you live in phoenix ......... right ? |
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Posted by TonyG on Sat May 25 14:41:09 2013, in response to Re: Judge rules against 'America's toughest sheriff' in racial profiling lawsuit, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat May 25 09:03:08 2013. Arizona is a weird state as far as race goes. The black population here is so small and even where it is there is virtually no black / white racism. All of the racism seems to be white vs. hispanic. |
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Posted by TonyG on Sat May 25 14:42:06 2013, in response to Re: Judge rules against 'America's toughest sheriff' in racial profiling lawsuit, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat May 25 14:40:23 2013. Yeah. That photo was taken on 2/9/2013 during a "training exercise" for armed patrols of schools using volunteer Sheriff posse members. My brother is a reporter and I was helping him cover the story. |
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Posted by TonyG on Sat May 25 14:44:03 2013, in response to Re: Judge rules against 'America's toughest sheriff' in racial profiling lawsuit, posted by Easy on Fri May 24 23:40:32 2013. Not that I am an Ann Coulter fan or anything, but she came to my university while I was still in college and she made a statement that Arab looking people are "profiles" of terrorist suspects, so she doesn't understand why people get all bent out of shape as to extra scrutiny of Arabs. The same argument can be made here. Most illegal immigrants in Maricopa County are Hispanic, although most Hispanics in Maricopa County are NOT illegal. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 25 14:48:12 2013, in response to Re: Judge rules against 'America's toughest sheriff' in racial profiling lawsuit, posted by TonyG on Sat May 25 14:42:06 2013. Should have taken the shot while you had it. (grin - because a smiley may be insufficient here) |
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Posted by TonyG on Sat May 25 14:48:32 2013, in response to Re: America's toughest, greatest, best sheriff, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 25 12:10:37 2013. You can take him. He's almost worn his welcome out here. He just faced the toughest re-election battle he has EVER faced. |
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Posted by TonyG on Sat May 25 14:50:15 2013, in response to Re: Judge rules against 'America's toughest sheriff' in racial profiling lawsuit, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 25 14:48:12 2013. I've also shaken Arpaio's hand before and had a 5 minute conversation with him about how he wanted Michael Moore to do a movie about him. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 25 14:52:52 2013, in response to Re: Judge rules against 'America's toughest sheriff' in racial profiling lawsuit, posted by TonyG on Sat May 25 14:50:15 2013. Heh. Good for you in all seriousness ... I shook Nixon's hand after a press conference. Had to disinfect it with flames. :) |
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Posted by TonyG on Sat May 25 14:55:03 2013, in response to Re: Judge rules against 'America's toughest sheriff' in racial profiling lawsuit, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 25 14:52:52 2013. I've shaken Arpaio's, John McCain's, and Ralph Nader's hands. I haven't voted for any of them. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 25 15:17:39 2013, in response to Re: Judge rules against 'America's toughest sheriff' in racial profiling lawsuit, posted by Easy on Fri May 24 23:40:32 2013. Arpaio has already filed an appeal. But it seems it'll take the fall of this administration for anything to be done about it in terms of actual justice. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 25 15:21:15 2013, in response to Re: Judge rules against 'America's toughest sheriff' in racial profiling lawsuit, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat May 25 09:03:08 2013. Bullshit. Their rights were not violated. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 25 15:22:09 2013, in response to Re: America's toughest, greatest, best sheriff, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 25 12:10:37 2013. At this point, I wish he were POTUS. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 25 15:26:22 2013, in response to Re: Judge rules against 'America's toughest sheriff' in racial profiling lawsuit, posted by TonyG on Sat May 25 14:55:03 2013. Yeah, amusing what you've got to do for column inches. That's why you always have to be prepared! :)
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 25 15:27:08 2013, in response to Re: Judge rules against 'America's toughest sheriff' in racial profiling lawsuit, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 25 15:17:39 2013. Sounds like somebody just made the list. :) |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 25 15:27:26 2013, in response to Re: Judge Rules Against 'America's Toughest Sheriff' In Racial Profiling Lawsuit, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat May 25 13:43:37 2013. Your name is Salaam! |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 25 15:28:14 2013, in response to Re: America's toughest, greatest, best sheriff, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 25 12:14:48 2013. ? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 25 15:29:25 2013, in response to Re: Judge rules against 'America's toughest sheriff' in racial profiling lawsuit, posted by TonyG on Sat May 25 14:42:06 2013. when are you coming to Florida? |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 25 15:29:54 2013, in response to Re: Judge rules against 'America's toughest sheriff' in racial profiling lawsuit, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat May 25 13:37:56 2013. Ted Hayes should be your sheriff. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 25 15:30:20 2013, in response to Re: America's toughest, greatest, best sheriff, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 25 15:28:14 2013. Click here ...http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076070/ |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 25 15:30:55 2013, in response to Re: America's toughest, greatest, best sheriff, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 25 15:22:09 2013. I TOTALLY IAWTLP |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 25 15:32:06 2013, in response to Re: Salaam Should Be Saying Thank You To America's Toughest Sheriff, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat May 25 13:41:02 2013. Why? You hate white people that much? |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 25 15:33:08 2013, in response to Re: America's toughest, greatest, best sheriff, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 25 15:30:20 2013. Good movie. I don't get the analogy. |
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Posted by TonyG on Sat May 25 15:33:49 2013, in response to Re: Judge rules against 'America's toughest sheriff' in racial profiling lawsuit, posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 25 15:29:25 2013. I was in Florida last September.The next big trip for me is to NYC August 20-24. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat May 25 15:34:57 2013, in response to Re: Judge Rules Against 'America's Toughest Sheriff' In Racial Profiling Lawsuit, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 25 15:27:26 2013. and i DONT live in phoenix thank god ! |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat May 25 15:37:53 2013, in response to Re: Judge rules against 'America's toughest sheriff' in racial profiling lawsuit, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 25 15:29:54 2013. who dat ? |
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