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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 23 19:48:29 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu May 23 19:41:04 2013. Even when the law says that you do? What about in the case of self defense? Would you not take a life to protect yourself or a loved one? |
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Re: NO DECISION TODAY (was: Should Jodi Aries Die?) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 23 19:50:34 2013, in response to NO DECISION TODAY (was: Should Jodi Aries Die?), posted by TonyG on Thu May 23 19:31:18 2013. Thank you |
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Re: Should Jodi Arias Die? |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu May 23 19:51:46 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by bingbong on Thu May 23 10:27:08 2013. Yeppers |
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There Was a DECISION TODAY (was: Should Jodi Aries Die?) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 23 19:56:31 2013, in response to NO DECISION TODAY (was: Should Jodi Aries Die?), posted by TonyG on Thu May 23 19:31:18 2013. As I speculated earlier, the jury hopelessly deadlocked and was unable to reach a verdict. They will try again in July with a new jury. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu May 23 19:58:21 2013, in response to There Was a DECISION TODAY (was: Should Jodi Aries Die?), posted by Train Dude on Thu May 23 19:56:31 2013. Good |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 23 20:23:25 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by bingbong on Thu May 23 19:31:12 2013. The fact that death penalty appeals cost more than maintaining a life without parole convict is not debatable.Of course it's debatable. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 23 20:24:36 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by AlM on Thu May 23 19:28:44 2013. It is given as a statement that cost is not a valid reason for supporting or opposing the death penalty. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu May 23 20:25:48 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 23 20:23:25 2013. Only here, where reality is bent to an extreme even Steve Jobs could never believe. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 23 20:35:15 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by TonyG on Thu May 23 19:32:27 2013. Despite my opposition to the death penalty, I do not believe it would be wrong for the state to kill her. Murder is wrong. Execution is not murder. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 23 20:36:12 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu May 23 19:41:04 2013. That is false. There are times where one not only has the right, but the duty, to end another life. It is unfortunate when that happens but it is a cruel reality. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 23 20:38:50 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by bingbong on Thu May 23 20:25:48 2013. What does Steve Jobs have to do with anything?It is debatable EVERYWHERE. It is not a true fact and more of a statistic, and you know what they say about those. What is debatable is whether the statistic is valid. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu May 23 20:43:50 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 23 20:38:50 2013. His legendary "reality distortion field" Read the book. Ask anyone that knew him.I find it difficult to argue the numbers. They are what they are. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri May 24 00:43:47 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by Train Dude on Thu May 23 15:07:23 2013. Old picture from when she was younger and with lots of photo retouching.Her eyes don't look like that. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri May 24 00:53:58 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by TonyG on Thu May 23 19:32:27 2013. You would let Khalid Sheik Mohammed walk? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 24 00:55:02 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by SMAZ on Fri May 24 00:53:58 2013. If you kill him, he's a martyr. If you let him live until he rots, he's just fish. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 01:16:04 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 24 00:55:02 2013. So long as he remains alive, he is collateral for a hostage exchange. This is why people who committed their crimes through allegiance with a foreign organization dedicated to attacking the United States should be executed as swiftly as possible. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 24 01:25:04 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by TonyG on Thu May 23 19:32:27 2013. when are you coming to Florida? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 24 01:31:39 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 01:16:04 2013. Disagree. One doesn't have to agree to an exchange. Career spies know that if they're caught or captured, tough shit. That's why we paid you what we did and you fucked up. People who venture into hostile territory voluntarily serve as examples to others not to go there. I laughed over the state "differential" for working in NYC - the premise was you were in danger for going there according to my upstate tribe. :)But as to those who prefer death, that's reason enough to deny them their wish. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri May 24 09:04:51 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 01:16:04 2013. The US has an official policy of no ransom. It works pretty well. Many more French than Americans get themselves kidnapped overseas. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri May 24 09:06:02 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by SMAZ on Fri May 24 00:53:58 2013. I've got no problem with letting him walk, within the confines of his cell in Florence, CO. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 09:10:32 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 24 01:31:39 2013. Doesn't stop the enemy from taking hostages.As for those who prefer death? Who cares what they prefer? Our justice system shouldn't be based on the criminals' preferences. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 24 10:17:32 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by RockParkMan on Thu May 23 18:19:57 2013. Yes |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 24 10:19:52 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 23 18:48:58 2013. What about homosexulaity and abortion? They are contrary to Jewish teachings. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 10:31:25 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 24 10:19:52 2013. But I'm not the one who says that people are hypocrites for being Jewish and supporting the legality of those things as a matter of public policy. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 24 10:39:28 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 10:31:25 2013. ? |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Fri May 24 10:52:30 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 09:10:32 2013. As for those who prefer death? Who cares what they prefer? Our justice system shouldn't be based on the criminals' preferences.Don't certain states allow convicts to choose their own execution method? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 24 10:57:01 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by kew gardens teleport on Fri May 24 10:52:30 2013. Absolutely if they maintain 2 or more legal methods |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 12:45:15 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 24 10:39:28 2013. You're the one who says that Jews who support abortion and same-sex marriage are hypocrites, not me. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 12:47:12 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 24 10:57:01 2013. If they maintain two legal methods, they don't necessarily allow the condemned to choose the method. Regardless, methods of execution besides lethal injection are becoming increasingly rare. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 24 13:01:44 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 12:45:15 2013. Than I must be a hypocrite because I have no problem with same sex marriage. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 13:08:52 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 24 13:01:44 2013. OK, then I must have misinterpreted your post about Rahm Emanuel. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 24 13:10:23 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 12:45:15 2013. What I said, I thought it was ironic, not hypocritical. I am Jewish. I am not an orthodox Jew. Rahm Emanual claims to be an orthodox Jew. He is a hypocrite. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 13:11:54 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 24 13:10:23 2013. OK, then I retract my post. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 24 13:15:55 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 13:08:52 2013. To clear things up. I don't necessarily support gay marriage, but I don't oppose it either. In other words, if I were a state represenitive, or state senator, I would vote yes, but I wouldn't champion or sponser it.As far as abortion, it is murder. Period. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 24 13:16:31 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 13:11:54 2013. OK. it's all good, and I respect you for it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 14:21:50 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 24 13:15:55 2013. So at what point do you consider a unique human being to have been formed? |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 24 14:24:46 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 14:21:50 2013. Conception. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 14:56:33 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 24 14:24:46 2013. Why do you consider a fertilized zygote more human than a sperm or egg? Do you realize than some fertilized zygotes are never implanted and the woman is thus never considered to have been pregnant? It dies and gets unknowingly flushed with the rest of the menstrual blood. |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Fri May 24 15:00:37 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 14:21:50 2013. Speech. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 15:09:17 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by kew gardens teleport on Fri May 24 15:00:37 2013. But infants can't speak. |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Fri May 24 15:33:28 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 15:09:17 2013. By definition. :-) |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 24 16:04:07 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 14:56:33 2013. Interesting. No I never knew that. Don't know much about it. You do oppose late term abortion right? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 17:57:55 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 24 16:04:07 2013. Yes, except when the mother's life or health is at risk. |
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