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Re: Today in Gun Violence
Posted by Train Dude* on Tue May 7 19:04:54 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Tue May 7 13:13:23 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d The US Justice Dept. released an interesting statistic. Deaths due to gun violence has dropped 39% from 1993 to 2011. Their focus should turn to pressure cookers.
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Re: Today in Gun Violence
Posted by SMAZ* on Tue May 7 20:10:06 2013, in response to Re: Today in Gun Violence, posted by Train Dude on Tue May 7 19:04:54 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d Deaths due to gun violence has dropped 39% from 1993 to 2011. Conservatives tell me that the USA is awful nowadays. Violent. Murderous. As unsafe as ever and that the old days were better. This statistic must be puzzling to them.
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Re: Today in Toy Guns
Posted by Dan Lawrence* on Tue May 7 20:14:58 2013, in response to Re: Today in Toy Guns, posted by Train Dude on Tue May 7 13:43:23 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d You can tell if it's swell if it's Mattel!!!
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Re: Today in Gun Violence
Posted by AlM* on Tue May 7 20:15:38 2013, in response to Re: Today in Gun Violence, posted by Train Dude on Tue May 7 19:04:54 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d Car deaths per 100 million miles traveled have been dropping for a century. In the last 60 years: 7.2 in 1952, 1.1 in 2010. http://www.statisticbrain.com/car-crash-fatality-statistics-2/ Should we stop trying to reduce motor vehicle deaths?
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Re: Today in Gun Violence
Posted by Train Dude* on Tue May 7 20:19:04 2013, in response to Re: Today in Gun Violence, posted by SMAZ on Tue May 7 20:10:06 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d Conservatives? You do mean liberals, don't you?
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Re: Today in Gun Violence
Posted by Train Dude* on Tue May 7 20:20:03 2013, in response to Re: Today in Gun Violence, posted by AlM on Tue May 7 20:15:38 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d Then you wonder why I think you are a loser. Here is exhibit A.
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Re: Today in Gun Violence
Posted by AlM* on Tue May 7 20:22:24 2013, in response to Re: Today in Gun Violence, posted by Train Dude on Tue May 7 20:20:03 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d Just asking you a question that seems to be following from your line of reasoning.
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Re: Today in Toy Guns
Posted by RockParkMan* on Tue May 7 20:28:01 2013, in response to Re: Today in Toy Guns, posted by Train Dude on Tue May 7 13:35:24 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d my brother had the Winchester 94 version of that family. The first thing he purchased when he first started working was a real '94.
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Re: Today in Gun Violence
Posted by Train Dude* on Tue May 7 20:29:07 2013, in response to Re: Today in Gun Violence, posted by AlM on Tue May 7 20:22:24 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d If there was a question, you failed to include the (?).
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Re: Today in Toy Guns
Posted by Train Dude* on Tue May 7 20:32:10 2013, in response to Re: Today in Toy Guns, posted by RockParkMan on Tue May 7 20:28:01 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d Winchester 94 was a rifle, n'est pas?
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Re: Today in Toy Guns
Posted by cortelyounext* on Tue May 7 20:36:47 2013, in response to Re: Today in Toy Guns, posted by Train Dude on Tue May 7 20:32:10 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d Text corrected. Winchester 94 was a rifle, wasn't it?
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Re: Today in Toy Guns
Posted by Train Dude* on Tue May 7 20:38:36 2013, in response to Re: Today in Toy Guns, posted by cortelyounext on Tue May 7 20:36:47 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d thank you.
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Re: Today in Toy Guns
Posted by RockParkMan* on Tue May 7 20:38:53 2013, in response to Re: Today in Toy Guns, posted by Train Dude on Tue May 7 20:32:10 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d http://www.winchesterguns.com/products/catalog/category.asp?family=003C
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Re: Today in Toy Guns
Posted by Train Dude* on Tue May 7 20:45:07 2013, in response to Re: Today in Toy Guns, posted by RockParkMan on Tue May 7 20:38:53 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d thank you
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Re: Today in Toy Guns
Posted by cortelyounext* on Tue May 7 20:45:56 2013, in response to Re: Today in Toy Guns, posted by Train Dude on Tue May 7 20:38:36 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d I do what I can.
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Re: Today in Toy Guns
Posted by RockParkMan* on Tue May 7 20:52:59 2013, in response to Re: Today in Toy Guns, posted by Train Dude on Tue May 7 20:45:07 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d The funny thing is, he's not a "Western" type.
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Re: Today in Gun Violence (or lack thereof: proff)
Posted by Olog-hai* on Tue May 7 21:08:14 2013, in response to Re: Today in Gun Violence, posted by Train Dude on Tue May 7 19:04:54 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d Associated Press May 7, 2013 7:27 PM EDT Reports show gun homicides down since 1990s By Alan Fram Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) — Gun homicides have dropped steeply in the United States since their 1993 peak, a pair of reports released Tuesday showed, adding fuel to Congress' battle over whether to tighten restrictions on firearms. A study released Tuesday by the government's Bureau of Justice Statistics found that gun-related homicides dropped from 18,253 in 1993 to 11,101 in 2011. That's a 39 percent reduction. Another report by the private Pew Research Center found a similar decline by looking at the rate of gun homicides, which compares the number of killings to the size of the country's growing population. It found that the number of gun homicides per 100,000 people fell from 7 in 1993 to 3.6 in 2010, a drop of 49 percent. Both reports also found that non-fatal crimes involving guns were down by roughly 70 percent over that period. The Justice report said the number of such crimes diminished from 1.5 million in 1993 to 467,300 in 2011. But perhaps because of the intense publicity generated by recent mass shootings such as the December massacre of 20 school children and six educators in Newtown, Conn., the public seems to have barely noticed the reductions in gun violence, the Pew study shows. The non-partisan group said a poll it conducted in March showed that 56 percent of people believe the number of gun crimes is higher than it was two decades ago. Only 12 percent said they think the number of gun crimes is lower, while the rest said they think it remained the same or didn't know. The data was released three weeks after the Senate rejected an effort by gun control supporters to broaden the requirement for federal background checks for more firearms purchases. Senate Democratic leaders have pledged to hold that vote again, perhaps by early summer, and gun control advocates have been raising public pressure on senators who voted "no" in hopes they will change their minds. Sen. John Thune of South Dakota, a member of the Senate Republican leadership, said the figures show that gun control groups have emphasized the wrong approach to controlling firearms violence. "That's what many of us have argued all along, is that focusing just exclusively on the guns is not the correct approach to this," he said. Thune said lawmakers should aim instead at preventing future mass killings by improving mental health programs and increasing the records that state governments send the federal background check system so the checks can do a better job of keeping guns from people who shouldn't have them. Gun control supporters said the numbers have declined but remain too high, with U.S. rates of gun killings remaining far greater than most other nations. "None of these studies change the impact of Newtown and other recent mass slayings, showing the need for common sense measures" restricting guns, Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., said. The Justice study said that in 2011, about 70 percent of all homicides were committed with firearms, mainly handguns. The trend in firearm-related homicides is part of a broad nationwide decline in violent crime over past two decades, including incidents not involving firearms. Both studies concluded that most of the decline in gun homicide rates occurred in the 1990s. The Justice report found that since 1999, the number of firearm homicides increased from 10,828 to 12,791 in 2006 before declining to 11,101 in 2011. Though researchers differ over all the reasons why gun violence has declined, many attribute it to the aging of the baby boomers. The crime rate was higher in the 1960s and 1970s when many in that large generation were teenagers, an age when higher proportions of people commit crimes. Crime rates dropped in the early 1980s as that generation aged, rose in the latter part of that decade as the use of crack cocaine grew, then dropped again in the 1990s as the nation's economy improved, analysts say. The Pew report also said: The gun suicide rate is 6.3 per 100,000 people, and there were 19,392 suicides by firearms in 2010. That rate has declined more slowly than the firearms homicide rate, with 6 in 10 gun deaths now suicides, the highest proportion since at least 1981. More than 8 in 10 victims of gun homicides are men and boys. Fifty-five percent of gun homicide victims in 2010 were black, far beyond their 13 percent share of the population. The Pew study chiefly used federal data from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the Justice Department's National Crime Victimization Survey, a household survey conducted by the Census Bureau. Associated Press writer Pete Yost contributed to this report.
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Re: Today in Gun Violence (or lack thereof: proff)
Posted by Train Dude* on Tue May 7 21:10:18 2013, in response to Re: Today in Gun Violence (or lack thereof: proff), posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 7 21:08:14 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d Killjoy. I was going to wait until one of the usual suspects demanded proff.
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Re: Today in Gun Violence (or lack thereof: proff)
Posted by Olog-hai* on Tue May 7 21:10:46 2013, in response to Re: Today in Gun Violence (or lack thereof: proff), posted by Train Dude on Tue May 7 21:10:18 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d Sorry. I'll override my urge to rub it in, next time.
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Re: Today in Gun Violence
Posted by Train Dude* on Wed May 8 11:17:06 2013, in response to Re: Today in Gun Violence, posted by Train Dude on Tue May 7 20:29:07 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d BUMP to AlM
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Re: Today in Gun Violence
Posted by AlM* on Wed May 8 11:21:16 2013, in response to Re: Today in Gun Violence, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 8 11:17:06 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d I was explaining why I asked a question in the prior post. Therefore no question mark was needed in the post you were asking about.
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Re: Today in Gun Violence
Posted by Train Dude* on Wed May 8 11:24:48 2013, in response to Re: Today in Gun Violence, posted by AlM on Wed May 8 11:21:16 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d You did say that there was a question. I'm still waiting for it.
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Re: Today in Gun Violence
Posted by AlM* on Wed May 8 11:32:39 2013, in response to Re: Today in Gun Violence, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 8 11:24:48 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d As I said, it was in a prior post. http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=1062245
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Re: Today in Guns
Posted by bingbong* on Wed May 8 21:35:29 2013, in response to Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 2 18:39:56 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d May 8, 2013
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Re: Today in vibrators
Posted by Train Dude* on Wed May 8 21:44:20 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Wed May 8 21:35:29 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d
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Re: Today in Guns
Posted by bingbong* on Thu May 9 11:14:35 2013, in response to Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 2 18:39:56 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d May 9, 2013
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Re: Today in Guns
Posted by bingbong* on Fri May 10 12:25:57 2013, in response to Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 2 18:39:56 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d May 10, 2013
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Re: Today in Guns
Posted by LuchAAA* on Fri May 10 12:34:50 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Fri May 10 12:25:57 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d LOL @ Newburgh. Seriously, Newburgh is such a sad story. Why were there shootings in DC? Guns are illegal there. And I don't know why the hell Carlos Velez the third got shot, but whatever the reason, it's no reason to hate guns. But please update us on Carlos Velez.
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Re: Today in Guns
Posted by LuchAAA* on Fri May 10 12:38:06 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Fri May 10 12:25:57 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d Here's another E. Chicago shooting. Read the story. It's not a case for stronger gun control. It's another reason why law abiding real Americans need to arm themselves. did you see this other story from E. Chicago
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Re: Today in Pogo Sticks
Posted by Train Dude* on Fri May 10 13:33:25 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Fri May 10 12:25:57 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d
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Re: Today in Guns
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Fri May 10 13:46:07 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 10 12:38:06 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d East Chicago is in Indiana.
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Re: Today in Guns
Posted by Dave* on Fri May 10 13:50:13 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 10 13:46:07 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d West Memphis is in Arkansas. East St. Louis is in Illinois.
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Re: Today in Guns
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Fri May 10 13:54:57 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by Dave on Fri May 10 13:50:13 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d West New York is in New Jersey Kansas City is in Missouri North Bergen is in Hudson County
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Re: Today in Guns
Posted by Olog-hai* on Fri May 10 13:55:47 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by Dave on Fri May 10 13:50:13 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d Jersey Shore is in Pennsylvania. Michigan City is in Indiana . . .
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Re: Today in Guns
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Fri May 10 13:57:00 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 10 13:55:47 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d Northern Ireland is in the UK.
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Re: Today in Guns
Posted by Train Dude* on Fri May 10 14:00:06 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by Dave on Fri May 10 13:50:13 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d West NY is in New Jersey
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Re: Today in Guns
Posted by LuchAAA* on Fri May 10 14:57:24 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 10 13:46:07 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d East Chicago is in Indiana. (anti)American-Pig, I know!
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Re: Today in Guns
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Fri May 10 15:12:22 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 10 14:57:24 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d I didn't say you didn't, LuchAMFM
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Re: Today in Guns
Posted by Dave* on Fri May 10 15:53:56 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 10 13:54:57 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d Kansas City is also in Kansas!
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Re: Today in Guns
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Fri May 10 15:59:41 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by Dave on Fri May 10 15:53:56 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d That's not the Kansas City people usually think of. Lloydminster is in both Saskatchewan and Alberta.
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Re: Today in Guns
Posted by Dave* on Fri May 10 17:29:52 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 10 15:59:41 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d It is if you're from Kansas g.
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Re: Today in Guns
Posted by bingbong* on Tue May 14 12:23:06 2013, in response to Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 2 18:39:56 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d Includes yesterday in guns May 13, 2013 My 14, 2013
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Re: Today in Guns
Posted by bingbong* on Fri May 17 13:12:15 2013, in response to Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 2 18:39:56 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d Past 3 days: May 15, 2013 May 16, 2013 May 17, 2013
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Re: Today in Guns
Posted by LuchAAA* on Fri May 17 13:49:48 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Fri May 17 13:12:15 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d I don't see the shooting where a young man shot an home intruder in Jacksonville.
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Re: Today in Guns
Posted by LuchAAA* on Fri May 17 13:51:51 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 17 13:49:48 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d I wonder what in what year it will be illegal to shoot a home intruder? 2038?
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Re: Today in Guns
Posted by bingbong* on Mon May 20 12:03:48 2013, in response to Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 2 18:39:56 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d May 20, 2013
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Re: Today in Guns
Posted by Dave* on Mon May 20 12:38:51 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Mon May 20 12:03:48 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d 8.380 Swimming pool drowning deaths/100,000 residential swimming pools 1.501—1.935 Accidental firearm deaths/100,000 households with at least one firearm 0.354 Accidental firearm deaths/100,000 firearms Swimming pools are more dangerous than guns.
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Re: Today in Guns
Posted by AlM* on Mon May 20 12:42:35 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by Dave on Mon May 20 12:38:51 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d Swimming pools are more dangerous than guns. Indeed they are. And no one objects to the extensive regulations that go with swimming pools. Elevators are far safer than guns but are 100 times more regulated. So I guess we ought to remove all elevator regulation, right?
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Re: Today in Swimming Pools
Posted by Olog-hai* on Mon May 20 14:30:45 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by Dave on Mon May 20 12:38:51 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d pwnt.
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Re: Today in Swimming Pools
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Mon May 20 15:01:25 2013, in response to Re: Today in Swimming Pools, posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 20 14:30:45 2013.* fiogf49gjkf0d Yep ... there's no such thing as swimming pool regulations whereas gun owners have to bend over ... I'll just post ONE page.
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