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Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 18 12:32:43 2013

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The Hill

Michelle Obama criticizes the worship of celebrities, sports stars

By Emily Goodin
05/17/13 02:06 PM ET
Michelle Obama on Friday urged black youth to stay in school instead of dropping out to become a "baller or a rapper."

The first lady, speaking to graduates at Bowie State University, a historically black college, criticized the worship of sports stars and celebrities.

"Today, instead of walking miles every day to school, they’re sitting on couches for hours playing video games, watching TV," she said of black youth. "Instead of dreaming of being a teacher or a lawyer or a business leader, they’re fantasizing about being a baller or a rapper."

She went on to point out the high dropout rate for black students.

"Right now, one in three African-American students are dropping out of high school. Only one in five African-Americans between the ages of 25 and 29 has gotten a college degree — one in five," she said.

The first lady also encouraged parents to turn off the TV and take away video games.

"Take a stand against the media that elevates today’s celebrity gossip instead of the serious issues of our time. Take a stand against the culture that glorifies instant gratification instead of hard work and lasting success," she said.

Obama was giving her second commencement address of the graduation season. She spoke to students at Eastern Kentucky University earlier this month and will address graduates Martin Luther King Jr. Academic Magnet School in Nashville, Tenn., on May 18.


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Posted by Fred G on Sat May 18 12:41:22 2013, in response to Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 18 12:32:43 2013.

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She should have lunch with Bill Cosby.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV

Posted by Easy on Sat May 18 13:47:06 2013, in response to Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 18 12:32:43 2013.

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"Today, instead of walking miles every day to school, they’re sitting on couches for hours playing video games, watching TV," she said of black youth. "Instead of dreaming of being a teacher or a lawyer or a business leader, they’re fantasizing about being a baller or a rapper."

This is nothing new. The real problems are decaying morals, treating women like prostitutes, women reveling in thinking of themselves that way, and the overall glorification of the thug culture. This "element" as Luch would say seems to be an ever increasing proportion of the black population. Kids that can't separate rap lyrics from reality and try and live that lifestyle. Guys want to be thugs and women want to be with them.

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Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV

Posted by SMAZ on Sat May 18 14:38:32 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by Easy on Sat May 18 13:47:06 2013.

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Sounds like you are talking about the 1950's instead of 2013.

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Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV

Posted by Easy on Sat May 18 14:39:46 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by SMAZ on Sat May 18 14:38:32 2013.

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How so?

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Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV

Posted by SMAZ on Sat May 18 14:43:07 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by Easy on Sat May 18 14:39:46 2013.

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That's when all the things you stated were true.

Decaying morals, women treated like dirt, minorities glorifying thuggery, women seeing themselves by their bodies, music of the devil, etc.

Society is 100 times better today across all demographics and by every measure....except the music.



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Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV

Posted by Easy on Sat May 18 14:46:58 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by SMAZ on Sat May 18 14:43:07 2013.

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Black society is not better in large parts of the country. More black kids grow up without fathers present than ever before. More black families are on welfare than ever before. More black pregnancies are aborted than ever before. More black men are in prison than ever before.

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Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV

Posted by SMAZ on Sat May 18 14:54:41 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by Easy on Sat May 18 14:46:58 2013.

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Black society is not better in large parts of the country.

False.

More black kids grow up without fathers present than ever before.

So do more Swede and Norwegian kids in the last 50 years.

More black families are on welfare than ever before.

False.

More black pregnancies are aborted than ever before.

False.

More black men are in prison than ever before.

So are other groups. That's only because penalties are much harsher today than in decades past.

You think the past was like in "Happy Days".

You worship a time that never existed.

You worship a MYTH.




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Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV

Posted by Easy on Sat May 18 15:04:26 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by SMAZ on Sat May 18 14:54:41 2013.

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Nah. I see it first hand. You either like ignoring the obvious or have no idea what you are talking about. And it has nothing to do with Happy Days or the 1950's. Those weren't especially great times for black people as you are well aware.

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Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 18 15:04:40 2013, in response to Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 18 12:32:43 2013.

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didn't danD124 try to start a thread last week about the black dropout rate dropping or being lower than whites?

and no one responded to his post because no one took it seriously?

Michelle is right.

Blacks don't have enough role models outside sports and music.

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Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV

Posted by SMAZ on Sat May 18 15:12:33 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by Easy on Sat May 18 15:04:26 2013.

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Nah. I see it first hand.

People say first hand how it was like in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's.

It was WORSE.

Everything you said that you see today today was much more pronounced back then.

That's why society was in chaos in the 60's, 70's, 80's up to the mid 90's.

Meanwhile we just dealt with the worst economy since the 30's and American society (in all demographics) stood firm and with flying colors.

In American history, that had NEVER HAPPENED under such conditions or even much better ones.

You are LUCKY to live in these times and so are your kids.


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Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 18 15:14:59 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by SMAZ on Sat May 18 14:54:41 2013.

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"Happy Days

so glad you brought it up.

I watch repeats once or twice a week.

And I was thinking, if Happy Days was in production today, it would have to be modified to today's PC standards.

The Fonz is the coolest and most popular so he would have to be a light-skinned black male or Latino.

Richie would be gay. But not the first few seasons. They would build up to him "coming out" and the media would treat it like one of the most important moments in tv history.

Al's would be a Mexican restaurant for no particular reason and he'd be an immigrant just to promote the agenda.

Mr. Cunningham would be an intolerable bigot, sexist, ist, ist, ist.

Mrs. Cunningham and Joanie would stay the same.

There was a time in America like Happy Days.

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Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 18 15:19:06 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by SMAZ on Sat May 18 15:12:33 2013.

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I'm surprised you don't watch Mad Men because that show is about addressing life in that period.

Mainly the 60's.



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Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV

Posted by SMAZ on Sat May 18 15:23:22 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 18 15:14:59 2013.

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And I was thinking, if Happy Days was in production today, it would have to be modified to today's PC standards.

Would the characters, regardless of race and sexual orientation, still inexplicably all be New Yorkers transplanted to Milwaukee?

There was a time in America like Happy Days.

Yes.

The Year 2013.

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Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV

Posted by SMAZ on Sat May 18 15:26:18 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by SMAZ on Sat May 18 15:23:22 2013.

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and Al's was first run by an Asian guy.

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Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 18 15:27:22 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 18 15:14:59 2013.

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Al's was run by an immigrant.

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Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV

Posted by SMAZ on Sat May 18 15:29:25 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 18 15:19:06 2013.

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I don't watch TV and I certainly don't get my education from TV shows.

"Mad Men" is a show of the 2010's, not the 1960's.

It would give me about as much of a glimpse of the '60's as some movie about Ancient Rome with British actors would give me a glimpse of life in the Roman Empire.

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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 18 15:29:39 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 18 15:27:22 2013.

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it was first an Italian.

it would be a NAM if in production today.



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Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV

Posted by SMAZ on Sat May 18 15:30:55 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 18 15:29:39 2013.

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it was first an Italian.

False.

You are confused.

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Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 18 15:32:41 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by SMAZ on Sat May 18 15:30:55 2013.

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Immigrant in todayspeak means Latino or Muslim.

An Asian or Italian? Does not matter. They are not victim status groups.

Al's would be owned by an immigrant if Happy Days were in production today for PC standards. They could make him a Mexican or Muslim to promote an agenda on tv. THIW.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 18 15:32:56 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 18 15:19:06 2013.

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At least it's outside the 20 year nostalgia cycle and portrays that era as imperfect; as it was.

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Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 18 15:34:31 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by Easy on Sat May 18 14:46:58 2013.

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pwn3d.

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Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 18 15:36:05 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 18 15:04:40 2013.

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On these issues, I do agree with Michelle. But she didn't say anything about not worshiping big government . . .

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Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 18 15:36:12 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 18 15:32:56 2013.

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The point of Mad Men is to portray them as the Archie Bunker's of the 1%.

Weiner also likes to Christianize infidelity. He loves showing a Cross whenever Don is banging his neighbor.

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Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 18 15:37:17 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by Easy on Sat May 18 13:47:06 2013.

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It's destruction of the family, which is liberal dogma ever since it was mentioned by Marx in the Manifesto.

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Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 18 15:48:16 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 18 15:36:05 2013.

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That's because she isn't a republican.

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Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV

Posted by Fred G on Sat May 18 15:54:07 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 18 15:04:40 2013.

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Blacks don't have enough role models outside sports and music.

Who does?
When we were kids we'd admire the guy who could complete the Times crossword puzzle in half an hour. Now we hate that guy.

your pal,
Fred

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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 18 15:54:17 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by SMAZ on Sat May 18 15:29:25 2013.

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Agreed ... I worked for an ad agency as a copywriter and it wasn't at ALL like that. Although the humidor with weed in it in the "creative" department was a treat. :)

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Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV

Posted by Edwards! on Sat May 18 17:23:59 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 18 15:04:40 2013.

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Yup..thats because they turn to the pulpit.

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Posted by Edwards! on Sat May 18 17:33:01 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by Easy on Sat May 18 13:47:06 2013.

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"an ever increasing black.."

oh boy..
where have you been over the last 40 years?

You think "hip hop" is a "BLACK THING"? YOU think THUGGERY is a BLACK THING?

I love it..

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Posted by Edwards! on Sat May 18 17:42:48 2013, in response to Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 18 12:32:43 2013.

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hmmm...

She has a point..AND I RESPECT what she trying to accomplish..

But the use of tech wont ruin a mind..its the content that could.
what you see..you make part of you to some extent.

violence begets violence..the more you take in..the more it affects you...the more it desensitizes you.

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Posted by Edwards! on Sat May 18 18:50:01 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 18 15:04:40 2013.

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We have plenty..
They dont have to famous people.
it could be the community center matron..a teacher at school..a friend next door..a store owner..A PARENT..A roommate. an employer..a big brother or sister..a aunt or uncle..plus a bunch of other influences.
My mom..dad..granddad ,uncles and aunts, sisters and bothers were all a great focus for me as they all were super successful in their endeavors.
There were enough folks outside the family to serve as positive reinforcements OUTSIDE of the church that showed me enough to stay away from the wrongs.



You and a whole bunch of folks here don't know enough about black folks other than your narrow minded racism to look beyond it.

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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat May 18 19:03:00 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 18 15:37:17 2013.

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Don't go away mad, just go away. You serve no good anyway.

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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 18 19:05:35 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by Edwards! on Sat May 18 18:50:01 2013.

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thanks for attacking.

you know I know more about blacks than most whites every will because I worked with and around them more than most whites ever will.

you're a funny guy. you complain about black people on the B44 then attack me because I'm saying blacks have fewer positive role models. it's not that all blacks grow up that way, but it's more common.

what percentage of black babies are born to a single parent vs. white babies?

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Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat May 18 19:06:56 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by Edwards! on Sat May 18 17:42:48 2013.

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Just for the record, Olog-hai is the name of a Third Earth Troll. If we all don't want him, maybe Larry will add him to the ban list.

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Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 18 19:10:14 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by Edwards! on Sat May 18 17:33:01 2013.

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I think THUGGERY is more embraced by minorities than whites.

Although Italians have done a good job of embracing the Mafia and white elements embrace Sons Of Anarchy types, in the white community, the pattern has been to try and make it better for the next generation while in minority communities, it's is passed on from one generation to the next.

You point it out in buschat when complaining about fare beating on the B44.

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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 18 19:58:22 2013, in response to Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 18 12:32:43 2013.

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How ironic, michelle is worshiped like she is a goddess, for some strange reason.

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Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 18 20:22:48 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 18 19:58:22 2013.

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Looks like HERE is where it all went horribly wrong ... :)



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Posted by Train Dude on Sat May 18 20:40:41 2013, in response to Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 18 12:32:43 2013.

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Preaching to the choir? Why would you give a speech to college graduates about staying in school?

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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 18 20:44:43 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by Train Dude on Sat May 18 20:40:41 2013.

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Nancy Reagan gave plenty of "Just Say Yo" speeches to auditoriums of police officers. Hmmmm. :)

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Posted by Grand concourse on Sat May 18 20:58:09 2013, in response to Re: Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by Edwards! on Sat May 18 17:42:48 2013.

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Blaming video games for violence is a scapegoat. Not all people that played stuff like gta 4 are going to go around the city and steal cars or kill people for the fun of it. As for the celebrity worship, well doesn't hollywood worship the obamas?

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Posted by Train Dude on Sat May 18 23:20:22 2013, in response to Michelle Obama criticizes worship of celebrities, athletes; says take video games away, turn off TV, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 18 12:32:43 2013.

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