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Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel

Posted by orange blossom special on Fri Feb 22 11:48:16 2013

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Demonkkkrats seen breaking rank as of 2007.

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Former Sen. Chuck Hagel declined to sign a letter circulated by Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) in 2007 calling upon then-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to press Arab allies of the U.S. to recognize Israel’s right to exist “and not use such recognition as a bargaining chip for future Israeli concessions.”

Seventy-nine Senators eventually signed the letter, which was sponsored by Schumer and by Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC).

The Schumer-Graham letter “concerning the Responsibilities of Friendly Arab States” has not, apparently, been cited yet in the debate over Hagel’s potential confirmation as Secretary of Defense. The letter also calls upon Arab allies to “take meaningful steps” to assist the Palestinian Authority, to stop supporting terror groups, to end the Arab states’ boycott of Israel, and to push Hamas to recognize Israel and past peace agreements.

Hagel has also claimed he did not sign such letters unless they were directed to the President, but he failed to join 96 Senators in a critical pro-Israel letter to President Bill Clinton in 2000.

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Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel

Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Feb 22 11:50:26 2013, in response to Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel, posted by orange blossom special on Fri Feb 22 11:48:16 2013.

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Hagel is a REPUBLICAN...did you know that? eh?

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Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel

Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 22 12:12:14 2013, in response to Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Feb 22 11:50:26 2013.

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And a loyal one - despite everything said to the contrary here. he didn't want to twist Bush's arm, while some of his fellow Republicans were willing to.



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Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel

Posted by Allan on Fri Feb 22 12:15:12 2013, in response to Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel, posted by orange blossom special on Fri Feb 22 11:48:16 2013.

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Hagel is a jerk. He doesn't deseve to be Secretary of Defense.


Maybe he is doig this so he can assure he won't be confirmed (or he is just a plan jerk).

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Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel

Posted by orange blossom special on Fri Feb 22 12:24:04 2013, in response to Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Feb 22 11:50:26 2013.

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and? He looks white, older, and not that thin too. I also hear he's in Washington DC. Don't know about his tv viewing preferences.
Did i throw enough at the wall yet?

I guess he's a moderate republican that WMATAGO... keeps wanting us to get.

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Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel

Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Feb 22 12:30:51 2013, in response to Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel, posted by orange blossom special on Fri Feb 22 12:24:04 2013.

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Did you know Hagel is a VETERAN? eh?

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Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel

Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 22 12:47:53 2013, in response to Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel, posted by Allan on Fri Feb 22 12:15:12 2013.

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Maybe he is doig this so he can assure he won't be confirmed

He did it in 2007. I don't think he was thinking about his appointment by Obama at the time.



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Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Feb 22 14:35:31 2013, in response to Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel, posted by orange blossom special on Fri Feb 22 11:48:16 2013.

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The 2007 Schumer-Graham letter was signed by 40 out of 49 Democratic Senators, both Independents caucasing with the Democrats, and 27 out of 49 Republican Senators. A 2010 version of the letter wasn't signed by such flaming liberals as Orrin Hatch and Mitch McConnell.

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Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel

Posted by orange blossom special on Fri Feb 22 15:44:31 2013, in response to Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Feb 22 12:30:51 2013.

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Did you know we don't care about veterans anymore? They're treated worse than they've been for decades.

But I get it. He's a moderate republican. Moderates are like demonkkkrats, racist.

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Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel

Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Feb 22 16:03:24 2013, in response to Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel, posted by orange blossom special on Fri Feb 22 15:44:31 2013.

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"Did you know we don't care about veterans anymore?"

HOW UN-AMERICAN CAN YOU BE?


"They're treated worse than they've been for decades."

HOW SO? THEY GET FREE MEDICAL AND FREE HOUSING AND NOW A FREE EDUCATION. WHILE THERE ARE SOME VETS HOW FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS, MOST ARE TAKEN CARE OF FOR THE MOST PART.


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Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Feb 22 17:48:34 2013, in response to Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Feb 22 16:03:24 2013.

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THEY GET FREE MEDICAL AND FREE HOUSING AND NOW A FREE EDUCATION.

No they don't.

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Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel

Posted by RockParkMan on Fri Feb 22 18:16:02 2013, in response to Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel, posted by orange blossom special on Fri Feb 22 15:44:31 2013.

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--Post 9/11 GI Bill, (4 years of college FREE and transfgerrable to children)
--5 extra points on Civil service Exams,
--Affirmative Action like set asides at most employers for vets.

Yeah, Right.

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Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel

Posted by RockParkMan on Fri Feb 22 18:17:20 2013, in response to Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel, posted by SMAZ on Fri Feb 22 17:48:34 2013.

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No free housing


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Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel

Posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 22 19:50:03 2013, in response to Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel, posted by orange blossom special on Fri Feb 22 11:48:16 2013.

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Who gives a shit? He's nominated for Secretary of Defense not the Welcome Wagon.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 23 09:27:14 2013, in response to Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel, posted by RockParkMan on Fri Feb 22 18:17:20 2013.

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No free nothing.

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Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 23 09:31:43 2013, in response to Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel, posted by RockParkMan on Fri Feb 22 18:16:02 2013.

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Post 9/11 GI Bill, (4 years of college FREE

Incorrect.

--5 extra points on Civil service Exams,

Only for combat vets

Affirmative Action like set asides at most employers for vets.

Only some employers and government contractors






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Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel

Posted by AlM on Sat Feb 23 10:17:34 2013, in response to Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Feb 22 16:03:24 2013.

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The free medical and housing are for soldiers, not veterans.

If you have a link to the free education part, please post it. I know someone who would be interested.


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Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel

Posted by tunnelrat on Sat Feb 23 11:02:01 2013, in response to Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel, posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 23 09:27:14 2013.

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you get free medical& meds if you have a purple heart.

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Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 23 11:05:57 2013, in response to Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel, posted by AlM on Sat Feb 23 10:17:34 2013.

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In the Army, somebody on active duty can have 100% of his/her tuition (used to be 75%) paid but only up to a certain amount.

That's it.

As for the Post-9/11 GI Bill, all that does is provide a similar benefit at any accredited college but only up to amount of the highest yearly tuition of a public university in the State where the veteran is attending.

They'll pay for almost all of it at Stony Brook, not at Columbia or NYU.



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Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 23 11:11:16 2013, in response to Re: Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel, posted by tunnelrat on Sat Feb 23 11:02:01 2013.

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AFAIK, you get free medical and meds if you've got a service-connected disability rated at 30% or higher, Purple Heart or not.

PH recipients still have to have a service-connected disability rating of some kind (even if less than 30%) to get those freebies.

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Re: Hagel doesn’t feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 18 10:54:26 2026, in response to Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel, posted by orange blossom special on Fri Feb 22 11:48:16 2013.

Another Obama RINO.

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Re: Hagel doesn’t feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 18 10:54:26 2026, in response to Hagel doesn't feel Arab states should have to recognize Israel, posted by orange blossom special on Fri Feb 22 11:48:16 2013.

Another Obama RINO.

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