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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Feb 15 18:56:15 2013 
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 15 19:07:21 2013, in response to Atheism, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Feb 15 18:56:15 2013. yup. they want us to believe that the universe was the size of a mustard seed and evolved into all this. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 15 19:42:19 2013, in response to Atheism, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Feb 15 18:56:15 2013. Yes, I mock your belief that any of that is what atheists believe and I also mock your belief that it makes less sense than A Wizard Did It. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 15 19:43:02 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 15 19:07:21 2013. Nobody believes that the universe was the size of a mustard seed. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Feb 15 19:44:24 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 15 19:07:21 2013. Uhh... you *do* know a Catholic priest came up with that theory right? And that the Vatican accepts it?The "damn the science, the world was created 6500 years ago!" view is the oddball one... |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Fri Feb 15 19:44:58 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 15 19:43:02 2013. Luch's brain is the size of a mustard seed. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 15 19:48:48 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Feb 15 19:44:24 2013. EXCELLENT POST! |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 15 19:50:54 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 15 19:43:02 2013. Yes, the big bang theory says that the universe was that tiny at one time.Thanks for attacking. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 15 19:51:47 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Feb 15 19:44:24 2013. Thanks for trolling. Don't recognize your handle but I'll respond.I am talking about evolution and big bang not Catholicism. Thanks for trolling. I believe in evolution. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 15 20:09:58 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 15 19:50:54 2013. You obviously have no idea what a singularity is. Compared to that, a mustard seed might as well be a red supergiant. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Feb 15 20:10:18 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 15 19:51:47 2013. I've only been posting since SubChat 1999, it's understandable that you won't recognize the handle.Allow me to educate you: I am talking about the big bang, what I assume your "mustard seed" statement is referring to. It was first proposed by a Catholic priest. Both that and the theory of evolution are accepted by the Catholic church. Partially in response to the the Galileo mistake (shared by Catholic and Protestant sects alike), the Catholic Church reaffirmed this precept (snippet from WikiPedia): "The Church contends that natural reason, being a God-given capacity, is not opposed to the Church's teachings and the church therefore holds that its role throughout history has led to progress of science and intuitive reasoning." Source: 1st Vatican Council Dei Filius (see Chapter 4). It seems some Protestant sects have not learned from their mistake and are repeating it with dismissing the Big Bang theory. They are doing a good job at discrediting themselves with this. In this manner creationism is doing far more harm than good for faith in God. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 15 20:12:32 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Feb 15 20:10:18 2013. Another EXCELLENT POST! |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 15 20:13:10 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Feb 15 20:10:18 2013. Why is it understandable? Because I don't post much on the main board? I know all the handles on all three boards and you seem like a newcomer.Go away. Find someone else to troll and attack. |
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Posted by mr mabstoa on Fri Feb 15 20:25:23 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 15 19:48:48 2013. And that's what Martin Luther King.............nevermind |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 15 20:29:20 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 15 20:13:10 2013. He's been around a lot longer than you. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Feb 15 20:53:14 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 15 20:13:10 2013. I'm afraid you don't know all the handles on all three boards - if you did, you would know mine.As for "why it is understandable": it was sarcasm. I guess it went over your head, I do apologize for that. It is sometimes hard to gauge the level of those you are conversing with via text alone. In any case while I have been posting on Sub* for 14 years now, I don't believe I've ever had the pleasure of a conversation with you. I've seen your name all over the boards so it appears you have a lot to say. However, judging by the 3 minute timestamp between my previous response and yours, it seems you have trouble listening to what others have to say and ignore responses entirely when they contradict whatever perception you already had coming in to the conversation. I am puzzled as to why you are calling a presentation of facts "trolling" but I suppose that is a failing of my understanding of your character. Perhaps you are allergic to them in some way - if so, I apologize for causing you discomfort. In any case, I guess I'm a bit late but I guess I should say "welcome to SubChat"! |
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Posted by dAnd124 on Fri Feb 15 20:53:41 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 15 20:29:20 2013. He's been around a lot longer than you.??? |
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Posted by dAnd124 on Fri Feb 15 20:54:07 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 15 20:29:20 2013. He's been around a lot longer than you.a luch has been around for a long time (and his second post was a list!) |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Feb 15 21:00:50 2013, in response to Atheism, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Feb 15 18:56:15 2013. I'm always up for bashing atheism but the atheists who have thought it through don't believe that there was nothing but rather that there is an infinite regress of causes -- no beginning or end to the observable universe, and so no need for anything transcendent.I still find that those who take up that philosophy become anti-intellectualist in their dodging of many major questions. They will say that change in the universe does not call for an explanation and deny that there is any meaning at all to it (before going on to say that human beings "deserve" or are "meant" for freedoms x, y, and z). That's my biggest qualm. If there is no need to seek after the meaning of the universe, then stop acting like there is meaning to your life and stop promoting selfist, individualist philosophies that attempt to cheaply satisfy this craving for meaning. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Feb 15 21:02:01 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by dAnd124 on Fri Feb 15 20:54:07 2013. Hmm, so he was around back then? I guess I don't recognize him now, he seemed smarter then...Anyway, I can't find my first post but this is the earliest I could find... which does predate his, so my Sub* "seniority" is still intact :). I really want to find my 1999 posts... maybe I was using a different name then, it's too long ago to remember. |
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Posted by dAnd124 on Fri Feb 15 21:05:56 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Feb 15 21:02:01 2013. it strange the membership here is much more stable than other boards i belong to. i significant number of us have been here since 2000. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Feb 15 21:07:47 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Feb 15 21:02:01 2013. Wow. . .1999. I had just gotten Internet in my house. Dial-up, AOL. You had to make several attempts to connect on Sunday evenings when usage apparently peaked. And nobody could use the phone in the house while you were online.January 2000 - I discovered TransiTAlK (today's TTMG). A couple of months later I started following BusTalk and SubTalk and joined them one at a time before the year ended. Still remember how I couldn't believe how many people shared my transit interests. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 15 21:09:04 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 15 20:09:58 2013. Well, somewhere between being a singularity and being the size it is today, it must have been roughly mustard seed size. At least for a trillionth of a second or so. :) |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Feb 15 21:16:51 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Feb 15 21:07:47 2013. We had dial up, forgot through who but never had any issue with peak. And yes, not being able to use the phone was annoying. I do remember TransiTalk, I still have a folder "midis from TransiTalk" since I saved the background music from the different pages.Now I remember... I discovered SubTalk at the recommendation of a friend in 1999 (after I asked how he knew what the heck 0R-1R719 were, since I saw it every morning), but I lurked until that post. So since lurking cannot be proven I guess I'll have to start saying I've been here since 2000. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Feb 15 21:18:40 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by dAnd124 on Fri Feb 15 21:05:56 2013. Yeah, back when I joined in 2000, my handle's namesake bus, the 2000 New Flyer C40LF #857 had just been delivered. I remember seeing it on its first day of service, before the JG sticker was even on! It was the first time I was ever conscious of seeing a bus on its first day of service. That bus has since been tragically retired and I'm still around nearing 13 years, if we don't count the 2004 move from the Talks to the Chats. I still can't believe I've been posting under this general message board layout since 2000, and when I joined back then I was brand new and never thought the day would come when I would call myself a veteran (relatively).(I plan on keeping my handle as long as no other 857 is around. If the next 857 is not a New Flyer model of some kind I may change). |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Feb 15 21:27:52 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Feb 15 21:07:47 2013. I think that I got AOL around 1998, but dial-up was so slow that I didn't spend much time on the internet. Plus I was really slow in finding the interesting bits of the internet. I only found subchat because of Newkirk Plaza David, Clear Aspect, R7 Torresdale Express, R30A, South Ferry, Terrapin (barely), and DJG (barely). |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Feb 15 21:31:06 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Feb 15 21:16:51 2013. I saved the background music from the different pages.You did?!! There are a couple I wish I had saved. Any way I could get a hold of them? Able to upload to a post? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 15 21:46:42 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by dAnd124 on Fri Feb 15 20:53:41 2013. Henry has been around for a really, really long time. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 15 21:49:06 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Feb 15 21:00:50 2013. I do not have any craving to establish any meaning to life. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 15 22:03:38 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 15 20:13:10 2013. Just ignore Henry and he'll go away.Like Edweirds!, bingbong, and SUBWAYWOMAN. |
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Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Fri Feb 15 22:03:52 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Feb 15 21:02:01 2013. I guess I don't recognize him now, he seemed smarter thenNah. He was complaining about certain types of people back then too. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 15 22:05:19 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Fri Feb 15 22:03:52 2013. who do I complain about on OTCHAT oh troll oh troll? |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 15 22:11:25 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Fri Feb 15 22:03:52 2013. That thread has pearls of wisdom from Qtraindash7!your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Feb 15 22:24:34 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Feb 15 21:31:06 2013. These are the ones I had... I could email them to you, but that's about it...702 Where My Girls At.mid |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Fri Feb 15 22:30:59 2013, in response to Atheism, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Feb 15 18:56:15 2013. Haha, thank you for this. I've been trying to come up with something similar, but not as good. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Feb 15 23:03:48 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 15 22:11:25 2013. Imagine that.....lol |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 16 00:14:40 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 15 20:13:10 2013. Newcomer? He's been around since the SubTalk days. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 16 00:29:05 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by orange blossom special on Fri Feb 15 22:30:59 2013. Yup, this kind of ignorant bullshit is right up your alley. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 16 01:57:13 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 16 00:29:05 2013. you're losing this thread.LOL @ the big bang theory. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 16 02:04:10 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 16 01:57:13 2013. LOL! Far from it.OBS is laughable. So you believe in the solid state theory I assume? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 16 02:05:24 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 16 02:04:10 2013. Oops, I meant steady state. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 16 06:07:18 2013, in response to Atheism, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Feb 15 18:56:15 2013. Makes more sense to me than "god said not to eat pork".your pal, Fred |
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Posted by EastSideRider on Sat Feb 16 09:12:38 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Fri Feb 15 22:03:52 2013. Once an asshole, always an asshole! |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Feb 16 09:19:50 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Feb 15 22:24:34 2013. No need - thanks. I just needed a reminder of some of the titles. YouTube, which wasn't around back then, is great for the listening. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 16 09:44:08 2013, in response to Atheism, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Feb 15 18:56:15 2013. 
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 16 09:46:43 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Feb 15 20:10:18 2013. "The Church contends that natural reason, being a God-given capacity, is not opposed to the Church's teachings and the church therefore holds that its role throughout history has led to progress of science and intuitive reasoning."Which is also consistent with Free Will. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 16 09:51:11 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 16 09:44:08 2013. Probably the wisest spiritual leader on the planet: your pal, Fred |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sat Feb 16 11:38:27 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 16 02:05:24 2013. Yea sure, like you meant anything.And yea, I made up the image. You get bonus points. I know you and me ain't nothing but mammals, but I'm not going to do you like they do on the discovery channel. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 16 11:41:27 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by orange blossom special on Sat Feb 16 11:38:27 2013. You're not gonna do anybody. Nobody's gonna do you either.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 16 14:04:29 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by EastSideRider on Sat Feb 16 09:12:38 2013. You lost the abortion thread. I am a pro-abortion Republican. |
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