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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by WillD on Wed Feb 13 22:22:34 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 22:14:04 2013.

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You say you don't get worked up, yet you keep inserting yourself into every time TD trolls me and I respond. I don't see any exclamation points in any of my posts, yet there are a curiously large number of them in your posts.

I suppose I should just be glad you've moved up to directly addressing me rather than responding to TD's posts.

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 22:22:56 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 13 22:19:09 2013.

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It must Suck to him that Folks down here with High School Diplomas make twice as much as he does...

Cant even get in the field he studied in college ..

No wonder the kid is all bitter...

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Re: will streetcarman1 please go away?

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 13 22:23:27 2013, in response to Re: will streetcarman1 please go away?, posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 21:12:37 2013.

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thanks for attacking again, rAilMan(AM)

Ready for your annual trip to Tampa?

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by Fred G on Wed Feb 13 22:24:10 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by WillD on Wed Feb 13 22:08:39 2013.

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LOL, I was hoping they thought you worked in a mail room :)

your pal,
Fred

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by WillD on Wed Feb 13 22:24:26 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 13 22:20:49 2013.

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And yet here we are. You're manufacturing insults specifically for me, and I'm simply stating that you and others have stepped into Terrapin Station's shoes. Seems you're quite worked up despite your claim.

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 22:25:15 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by WillD on Wed Feb 13 22:22:34 2013.

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LOL Yer funny Pretty boy i give you that you keep right on patting yerself on the back and trying to feed yer fragile Ego...

I will keep laughing at you...

I

Smell...

Photobucket

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by WillD on Wed Feb 13 22:25:53 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 13 22:19:09 2013.

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No, it is not.

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 22:26:03 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by Fred G on Wed Feb 13 22:24:10 2013.

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Fred i could care less where he works!

Thats Steves Bug a-bo not mines...

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 13 22:26:49 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 22:22:56 2013.

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T'is a shame, indeed.

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Re: will streetcarman1 please go away?

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 22:28:24 2013, in response to Re: will streetcarman1 please go away?, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 13 22:23:27 2013.

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Im always ready for Tampa..

Counting down the days....

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 13 22:28:27 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by WillD on Wed Feb 13 22:24:26 2013.

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Yeah, you got me nailed but what insult are we talking about? You do work for PATCO, don't you?

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by WillD on Wed Feb 13 22:30:33 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 22:22:56 2013.

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I rather doubt that, but I don't have access to NYCT's contracted rates. I suppose it's possible that with OT some employees without HS degrees could conceivably make more than me, but I really can't say that bothers me. Besides, it'd probably be quite a bit of OT.

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by WillD on Wed Feb 13 22:32:58 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 13 22:28:27 2013.

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Pussilina. That's what I was talking about. You're so worked up you can't even stick to any number of perfectly useful insults.

And yes, I do work for the fastest and safest transit system in the US.

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 22:33:03 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by WillD on Wed Feb 13 22:30:33 2013.

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I rather doubt that, but I don't have access to NYCT's contracted rates.

Actually its all online(Our pay rates) you can look it up i cant remember the name of the site.

Besides, it'd probably be quite a bit of OT.

No i dont think so.





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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 22:33:50 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by WillD on Wed Feb 13 22:32:58 2013.

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And yes, I do work for the fastest and safest transit system in the US.

MTA>PATCO

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 13 22:34:09 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 22:26:03 2013.

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And what seems to be lost in all this silliness is at least Will is a "maker", not a "taker."

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 22:37:06 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 13 22:34:09 2013.

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Just like me...

I just Hope i live long enough to be a taker....

Steel dust is wrecking folks lungs....

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Re: will streetcarman1 please go away?

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 13 22:37:10 2013, in response to Re: will streetcarman1 please go away?, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 13 21:19:32 2013.

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Among other things, streetcarman1 never participates in soccer threads.

New Brunswick Station did.

NBS's original posts were also of a very different nature than streetcarman's as was his posting style, pictures and political positions and kinds of threads he participated in.

I think streetcarman is older too.

They have very little in common besides hystrionics.

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 13 22:39:05 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 22:37:06 2013.

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And remarkably, things are a lot cleaner down there than they used to be. Still ... we all know what comes up even now when you hork up a loogie. Know what you mean. But as to "maker/taker" I do find the irony here ... amusing. :)

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Re: will streetcarman1 please go away?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 13 22:40:18 2013, in response to Re: will streetcarman1 please go away?, posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 13 22:37:10 2013.

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But histrionics *is* the AVGAS of OT. :)

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 13 22:42:18 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by WillD on Wed Feb 13 22:32:58 2013.

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You call that an insult? I actually thought that you might even find it complimentary.

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 22:43:11 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 13 22:39:05 2013.

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The thing is you got a few takers here they just arent getting in on the fun thats all...

I say god Bless em they worked for it...

NOW the ones who take YOUNG (you know what i mean by that) annoy me a bit..

They dont know what its like to give..

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Re: will streetcarman1 please go away?

Posted by Fred G on Wed Feb 13 22:45:40 2013, in response to Re: will streetcarman1 please go away?, posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 13 22:37:10 2013.

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They're two different people.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by WillD on Wed Feb 13 22:45:46 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 22:33:50 2013.

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Unfortunately the numbers do not lie:



We're very nearly twice as fast, and that's with a maximum speed of just 40mph for almost half the line.

As for safety, I really hate to gloat on this subject, but it was relatively recently that they had the first employee fatality while on duty and that is still something that weighs heavily on every other person at the corporation.

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 13 22:46:53 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 22:43:11 2013.

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I don't have any problem with people who earned what they got - I'm collecting my state pension too. HOWEVER, I have a problem with those who are getting and fully support those who would deny same to anyone else who's contributing too. That's why I call it out.

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 22:50:49 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by WillD on Wed Feb 13 22:45:46 2013.

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Actually i was just Messing with you on that..

So far no Workers Deaths on the rails in a few years track safety courses work wonders...

Why No L.I.R.R or Metro North or is PATCO considered a Subway?

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 22:51:19 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 13 22:46:53 2013.

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I'm collecting my state pension too.

Bah stop bragging!

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 13 22:53:07 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 22:43:11 2013.

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"Taking" is what you are supposed to do when you've spent 30 years or more earning what you take. It's the ones with the bitter taste in their mouths that couldn't cut it that now whine about what others get.

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Re: will streetcarman1 please go away?

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 13 22:53:27 2013, in response to Re: will streetcarman1 please go away?, posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 13 22:37:10 2013.

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streetie is in his 50's IMO.

I am not vfrt.

T4A13

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by WillD on Wed Feb 13 22:54:14 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 22:33:03 2013.

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Oh right, they are, here. And I forgot just how expensive things are up there. Heh, I'll gladly take my pay down here where it buys a hell of a lot more than up around there.

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 13 22:54:39 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 22:51:19 2013.

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OK ... :)

My legislators voted against tier 6, and now they're already talking about a 7. :(

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 22:57:28 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by WillD on Wed Feb 13 22:54:14 2013.

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Heh, I'll gladly take my pay down here where it buys a hell of a lot more than up around there.

Will you got me there i cant even BEGIN to argue that chit!

My Property Taxes went up..

Again...

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 13 22:57:55 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 13 22:53:07 2013.

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We ... are ... the 47 percent! :)



You should turn in your check to reduce that deficit ...

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by WillD on Wed Feb 13 22:58:01 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 22:50:49 2013.

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We're classified by APTA and NTD as a rapid transit system, and the line was the model for BART and WMATA. It just happens that we're keeping the rapid in transit.

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 22:58:09 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 13 22:54:39 2013.

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Kevin they are gonna have a Tier 9 before its said and done...

50 and 85...

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 22:58:46 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by WillD on Wed Feb 13 22:58:01 2013.

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Sorta like PATH then?

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Re: will streetcarman1 please go away?

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 13 23:02:25 2013, in response to Re: will streetcarman1 please go away?, posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 13 22:37:10 2013.

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There were certain items posted on other social media. When I mentioned them here, they disappeared there.

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by WillD on Wed Feb 13 23:02:31 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 22:58:46 2013.

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Yes, only not governed by the FRA. We're just like any other rapid transit line and fall completely within the FTA regs.

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 13 23:04:03 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 22:57:28 2013.

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I would imagine the SCHOOL taxes down there are impressive too. Like up here. I wonder how much them armed guards are gonna add to it? :(

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 23:04:48 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by WillD on Wed Feb 13 23:02:31 2013.

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Interesting...

Theres talk that some wanted us Under FRA regs, i for one welcomed it.

Still Crew Room Banter.

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 23:05:24 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 13 23:04:03 2013.

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Theres someone i think in Jersey whos gonna do it...

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 13 23:05:34 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 22:58:09 2013.

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Hopefully that helps to illustrate why I'm always popping off the way I do. 5 and 6 were the brain children of Dean Skelos & company. :(

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 13 23:11:08 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 23:04:48 2013.

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Oh you'd LOVE the FRA ... heh. Any time you lose your air, somebody's gotta come down and sign a card before you can move again. :)

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 13 23:12:53 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 23:05:24 2013.

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Saratoga was talking about it a few weeks ago. Then they did the math and decided to close a school. :)

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Re: will streetcarman1 please go away?

Posted by dAnd124 on Wed Feb 13 23:13:04 2013, in response to Re: will streetcarman1 please go away?, posted by Easy on Wed Feb 13 21:53:50 2013.

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does that even count?

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 13 23:19:25 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by Railman718 on Wed Feb 13 22:58:09 2013.

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Tier 5 and 6 are the work of the democrats at the behest of RINO Bloomberg and as long as this state remains in democratic hands - we may yet see tier 9.

By the way - It was the "other Cuomo" who removed the onerous Tier III and gave us Tier IV.

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Feb 14 09:00:13 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 13 22:34:09 2013.

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And what seems to be lost in all this silliness is at least Will is a "maker", not a "taker."

Nah; it's still a public agency ;).

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Re: will streetcarman1 please go away?

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Feb 14 09:37:07 2013, in response to Re: will streetcarman1 please go away?, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 13 22:53:27 2013.

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vfrt = mcorivervsaf

LuchAAA = R143

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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Feb 14 10:41:38 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by WillD on Wed Feb 13 22:45:46 2013.

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Nice chart. I guess L. A. #s are an average of the Red and Purple lines. Would be interesting to see them broken out like the WMATA lines, as the Red is much longer than the Purple, and has that long stretch under the Hollywood Hills between Hollywood/Highland and Universal City stations, where I suspect that the Bredas get close to their top allowed spped (70 mph, IIRC). I have to speculate about that, as that section had not yet opened the last time I was in L. A. (June 1999).



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Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?

Posted by Easy on Thu Feb 14 11:18:22 2013, in response to Re: did Dan Lawrence go away?, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Feb 14 10:41:38 2013.

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IIRC that chart was from an entry on Greater Greater Washington and they just used the timetables to calculate speeds. Using wiki's 16.4 miles for the red line and 29 minutes from the timetable I get 33.9 mph for the red line. Using 6.4 miles and 13 minutes for the purple line I get 29.5 mph. They get 26.4 mph so either the timetables changed or our distances are different. They may have inadvertently been using the total track length (to the yard) which would lower the speed. Or maybe wiki is wrong.

For the red line it's I once asked an operator how fast the trains went through the hills and he said about 65 mph.

On a semi-related note I was traveling next to a green line train on the 105 east of the 710 and can confirm that they also travel at 65 mph. I've read where some people say 55 mph max, but I've been next to them several times when they were traveling 65 mph though sometimes they do only go 55 mph.

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