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Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 2 18:39:56 2013 Has become a daily on Joe Nocera's blog. More, sadly, tomorrow.Feb 2, 2013 Feb 1, 2013 Jan 31, 2013 Jan 30, 2013 Last Week's Gun News |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Feb 2 18:50:31 2013, in response to Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 2 18:39:56 2013. Love Joe. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Feb 4 13:47:36 2013, in response to Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 2 18:39:56 2013. Feb 4, 2013Tip of the iceberg. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Feb 5 12:16:24 2013, in response to Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 2 18:39:56 2013. Feb 5, 2013Slate has bee running a gun violence counter. Since Dec 14, 2012 (the day of the Newtown Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting) it's 1577 as of this posting. That's as accurate a number as they can get, yet is probably doesn't cover the complete picture as they need to depend on individuals reporting local news. Why isn't the government collecting this data? Why isn't every gun related incident required to be reported to the a central database so we can truly ascertain the depth and breadth of gun violence in America? Then we'd be able to act responsibly about it based on fact. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Feb 5 18:10:59 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Tue Feb 5 12:16:24 2013.  |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Tue Feb 5 19:15:16 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Tue Feb 5 12:16:24 2013. Wow, could you be any more desperate?
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Posted by RockParkMan on Tue Feb 5 19:29:29 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by mcorivervsaf on Tue Feb 5 19:15:16 2013. Another cancer heard from. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 5 19:31:05 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by mcorivervsaf on Tue Feb 5 19:15:16 2013. 
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Posted by cortelyounext on Tue Feb 5 19:58:21 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 5 19:31:05 2013. You were just added to the List of Attackers, hereafter referred to as List of Attackers for purposes of this thread so as not to be confused with the LOA, which was just released by LuchAAA. Congratulations. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 5 20:15:08 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by cortelyounext on Tue Feb 5 19:58:21 2013. The new list is out! The new list is out! I *am* somebody! :)
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Posted by Grand concourse on Wed Feb 6 01:41:32 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by Train Dude on Tue Feb 5 18:10:59 2013. Lol. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 6 03:05:04 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by cortelyounext on Tue Feb 5 19:58:21 2013. On the other hand, jan k. lorenzen who was Pan American Airlines last interiors engineer and had the initiative and foresight to retain the original artwork for the "Clipper Maid of the Seas" and some other well known names, has just become the new Dean of the List of Aviators. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 6 03:07:14 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 5 19:31:05 2013. 
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Wed Feb 6 06:09:05 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by RockParkMan on Tue Feb 5 19:29:29 2013. What? You have cancer? Seek medical treatment now, Not-See! |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Wed Feb 6 06:17:47 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 5 19:31:05 2013. 
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Feb 6 13:37:36 2013, in response to Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 2 18:39:56 2013. Feb 6, 2013 |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 7 09:48:18 2013, in response to Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 2 18:39:56 2013. Feb 7, 2013 |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 7 10:13:44 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 7 09:48:18 2013.  |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 7 10:18:15 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 7 10:13:44 2013. Does reading about all that violence every day bother you? It should. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 7 10:20:59 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 7 10:18:15 2013. -OBSESSIVE-COMPULSIVE_DISORDER.jpg) |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 7 11:03:38 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 7 10:20:59 2013. Deny it all you want. Doesn't make you one iota less. |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 11:19:30 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 7 11:03:38 2013. You're the one living in denial, thinking that you can solve a problem, by passing more laws. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 7 11:44:00 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 11:19:30 2013. All laws are there to solve some problem that existed in their absence. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 7 11:51:18 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 11:19:30 2013. You've yet to come up with a better idea.About a quarter million guns are stolen from their legal owners every year. The number of gun violence deaths have been rising through the past decade. That is roughly the time period since the 1994 assault weapons ban sunset. Mass murder incidences are on the rise. Reports of the mentally ill getting gun permits surface almost daily. The system of background checks is failing us and needs to be strengthened, loopholes eliminated. Over 90% of ALL Americans agree with this. WTF is YOUR problem? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Feb 7 11:51:54 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 7 11:44:00 2013. +1 |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 12:02:16 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 7 11:51:18 2013. With that logic, why not take it to the next level? Let's ban baseball bats, wooden 2x4's, chairs, and anything else you can use to potentially hurt or kill someone! Why not do that, huh? Maybe if you weren't so thick-headed, I'd take you more seriously, but you continue to be naive enough to think that you can stop criminals from getting guns, when the truth is: THERE'S NO STOPPING THEM! Prosecute the offenders who violate the law, it's the only thing you can do! |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 12:04:48 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 7 11:44:00 2013. If that's true, why is the criminal element still there?ANSWER! |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 7 12:15:40 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 12:02:16 2013. Because none of those are specifically manufactured to kill with. Guns are the only tools that are.LOL! Then you say "prosecute the offenders who violate the law" yet you complain about making the laws to solve the problem,and then cut government budgets to eliminate enforcement resources. |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 12:21:22 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 7 12:15:40 2013. Please. You just want to sleep better at night, believing that less guns would mean less crime! Not by a longshot! The premise that a "knee-jerk feel-good" piece of legislation, will NOT make a difference, but you keep thinking that, I'm not the one going on an anti-gun crusade, like you have! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 7 12:23:31 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 12:02:16 2013. Because guns are far more lethal than any of those things. |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 12:26:11 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 7 12:23:31 2013. 
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 7 12:46:59 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 12:21:22 2013. You don't get it. I'm not anti-gun. I'm PRO-public safety. Getting assault weapons off the streets is a good start. They serve no purpose for hunting, and are not necessary for personal defense. Mandating training and skill upkeep though licensing (the education period, a month plus, allows for a thorough background check) also serves the public interest. Anyone that has a gun should know what to do with it and have the means to store it safely so others cannot access it. That does not infringe anyone's rights. In fact it protects them. That would reduce the almost quarter million guns stolen from their owner's homes every year.You need to rethink your pro-gun violence crusade. Shooting everything in sight won't solve the problem. In fact,it IS the problem. Too many people want that to be the only solution. It would only make everything WORSE. |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 12:51:05 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 7 12:46:59 2013. Now, now, there's nothing substantial about anything you said there. You have an agenda, and I'm onto it! You want to infringe on other people's rights on gun ownership! Your obsession is hitting critical mass, time to calm down, now! |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Thu Feb 7 12:56:03 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 7 12:46:59 2013. I am officially |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 7 13:08:49 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 12:51:05 2013. How does insuring public safety infringe on rights? Nobody is arguing that the mentally ill should be able to get guns. Or are you in favor of arming psychopaths? Are you a psychopath?Gun-Nuts Fantasies vs. Real World Tragedies |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Feb 7 13:11:35 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 12:26:11 2013. You're the one who is deliberately distorting the facts about a known problem.Just because the second amendment guarantees the right to own guns doesn't mean nothing should be done to reduce gun violence. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Feb 7 13:13:36 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 12:51:05 2013. And why are you so excited?There isn't the slightest chance for massive new gun legislation to pass. Are you opposed to a genuine background check being required for every gun purchaser? That's what might actually pass, despite the hysteria being displayed about such a limited law. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 7 13:16:01 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Feb 7 12:56:03 2013. Enjoy what you can as you can! :-) You have 4 days......Newark is likely to be closed. I think you'll be ok. Saw the latest models and this storm is likely to be a winter version of Sandy. Because of the snow and ice, the subways and tunnels shouldn't be flooded, but everything on the surface will come to a grinding halt. It is understood that planes operate above the surface of the earth, but their operation, of which you are paid to control, begin and end on the surface. So IMO you can prepare for a day or two of a quiet phone. Looks like you have. Good stuff, eh? |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 7 13:16:59 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by AlM on Thu Feb 7 13:11:35 2013. NOr does it imply that such can't be regulated. In fact, it MANDATES it. |
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Posted by grand concourse on Thu Feb 7 13:33:19 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 7 10:13:44 2013. hehe |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 13:37:20 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by AlM on Thu Feb 7 13:11:35 2013. 
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 7 13:39:06 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 12:04:48 2013. +3 |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 7 13:39:49 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 7 11:44:00 2013. Yes and the law against car theft has certainly stopped that crime. |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 13:42:59 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by AlM on Thu Feb 7 13:13:36 2013. In case you were unaware, the NRA actually supports background checks! I'm not opposed to that, either!Tell me another one! |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Feb 7 13:45:39 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 13:42:59 2013. Then who has been preventing background checks at gun shows for the last decade? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Feb 7 13:50:18 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 12:04:48 2013. so pwn3d. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Feb 7 13:53:19 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by AlM on Thu Feb 7 13:45:39 2013. The NRA.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Feb 7 14:23:30 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 13:42:59 2013. NRA no longer supports full background checks. They flip-flopped form their previous support. |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 14:24:12 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by AlM on Thu Feb 7 13:45:39 2013. Key words: GUN SHOWS.Not going to be a problem. More than enough security. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Feb 7 14:39:31 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 14:24:12 2013. Huh?You're telling me that straw purchasers don't go to gun shows, buy lots of guns, and then resell them to their nearest and dearest friends? |
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