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Re: HBD -- Farming and Inheritance

Posted by JayMan on Tue May 1 14:23:22 2012, in response to Re: HBD -- Farming and Inheritance, posted by SMAZ on Tue May 1 14:01:41 2012.

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JayMan goes by the premise that populations in any area are static when in fact they are dynamic whether by inflow or outflow.

I said no such thing. I repeated admitted that brain drain plays a role in the differences we see. Don't use a straw man. We are discussing the degree, not whether this occurred.

He then uses those averages as an indictment (or celebration) of the IQ of those areas entire native and descendant population as if there is something genetic that contributes to it rather than population shifts due mainly to economic, social and historical conditions.

Keep in mind that up until recent times, most people didn't move very much. Long-range travel is difficult in a world without telephones or automobiles.

Besides, in the case of Italy, the argument is moot. The Italian regions are clearly genetically distinct. The differences in IQ of the modern populations is primarily endemic.

Hence his conclusion that people born in Appalachia or Calabria are on average inherently stupid.

Some of the smartest people I've met are from places like Alabama, the Ozarks, Basilicata and Calabria.

Of course none of them were still living there.

Some of the stupidest people I've ever met are from NY or Northern Italy. They never left because they didn't need to but to someone like JayMan


Don't tell me you're going down that road and are not understanding the concept of AVERAGE. I know some really smart people from the South. And Rick Santorum, a Northern Italian, should close the argument on that front for all times... ;P

these are outliers when in fact the average IQ in all these places would be similar if not for the migratory patterns and resulting brain drain/gain..

Your making a bridge too far. If you're going to conclude the average IQ initially were the same, the burden of proof is on you. But again, as shown, thanks to genetic evidence, that argument is already DoA.

Never mind that you're talking to a high-IQ Black man...


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