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Re: HBD

Posted by JayMan on Sun Apr 29 23:12:03 2012, in response to Re: HBD, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun Apr 29 22:09:20 2012.

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Yes, but as some would note, the problem is the sizable chunk of non-Northwestern Europeans that exist.

Yup, mostly concentrated in the U.S. South (since the rave new way of life didn't catch on much in Celtic Britain, so I'm exempting them and their descendants here) with a fair amount in the Tri-State Area (our friends from Il Mezzogiorno). There is a disproportionate number of individuals in these groups that would only be all too happy to have an excuse to be bigoted.

A lot of HBD'ers, who as you note are crazy right-wingers, lament the altruistic nature of NW Euros, but I don't. As collectively the dominant power in the world by far, NW Europeans are in a position to wreak all sorts of misery upon the world if they were to so choose. Only their leftist, altruistic sentiment keeps them from doing so (and accounts for their relative restraint historically compared to all the other imperial powers in history), and by being in this position, they keep the rest of the world, such as the Eastern Europeans, East Asians, or Muslim nations, who not at all so inclined to care about the welfare of other peoples, from doing so.

FWIW, if you're an average black person that lives in within blackspheres, HBD doesn't change one's life too much, but for those of us prefer the company of non-blacks as friends or romantic interests, HBD may end up being the death sentence for our social lives.

FWIW, my gf, who is pretty much as White as they come, a mixed Germano-Celto-Balto-Slav, is aware of HBD and feels much like you do about HBD: she believes in it, but believes it's too dangerous for the public at large to consume. Her knowledge of HBD has not changed her opinion of other racial groups, and she even frowns on my discussing measures to address the situation with issues presented by certain groups, such as Mexican and Muslim immigrants. My point is that several, if not a majority of intelligent, attractive White women can come terms with HBD without thinking all people of other races are inferior or that their Black babies would have low IQ.

And as somebody who has had interest in numerous white women, the last thing that I want is for women to reject me because they'll fear that our kids will be low IQ.

I would add that if the woman does think that, she's probably too dumb for you anyway.

I think in general that many if not most of the smart, lefty Whites would continue to seek out people as color as friends, since they would then have to prove extra that they're not racist.

FWIW, I'll admit though that the flipside of HBD is that it's going to destroy the notion of the American dream as it's going to reveal that there's a sizable chunk of the white population that has no chance of going to Harvard, or arguably, even completing a four year degree in liberal arts. Whether this becomes the basis for a full blown social welfare regime to compensate the for inability of the low IQ to earn high incomes or take full care of themselves remains to be seen.

That would interesting to see. Among the loudest critics would be (and are) the biggest recipients of such aid.

The people who tend to promote HBD now tend to be anti-welfare state, and while Steve Sailor argues for reducing illegal immigration tp push up labour costs and reduce competition for low IQ workers, nobody else has much in the way of solutions to help this group other than "beat on black criminals like it's the 1950s".

Since, even if HBD went mainstream, I doubt eugenics would ever happen, I think seeking other solutions would be helpful. Truth be told, the status quo, really, isn't all that bad, griping in the HBD blogosphere notwithstanding. We're all here, we're all living together, and even though there's poverty and crime, and I suspect we would continue to do so. As such, we need not necessarily seek broad-reaching solutions (at least here in the States—the seemingly infertile Europeans have a whole other set of problems). A few small things could help.

For example, I think we could probably come to terms with reforming immigration, so we raise the average IQ of immigrants. And even if social welfare were expanded to help those who can't help themselves, births could be controlled by massively pushing family planning services like planned parenthood, and a public service campaign that lectures about the cost and responsibility of having children (inventing better and more reliable lower impact contraceptive for men would help too). That, I think, could at least maintain the status quo.

That said, I don't know what would happen to much of the Southern tier, where clannish Whites live in close contact with Blacks and Mexicans; they might be in trouble.

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