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Re: NY Times oddly worried that too many Asians go to Stuyvesant

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 29 00:27:32 2012, in response to Re: NY Times oddly worried that too many Asians go to Stuyvesant, posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Feb 28 23:11:39 2012.

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I don't think so. By 2012 it effectively excludes the immigration waves before adoption of the Quota System in 1924. This is the group that has declined most precipitously among Stuyvesant's ranks. They have been replaced by different groups of immigrants, thanks to the 1965 immigration law.

I still don't see the link between immigration and entrance into an elite school like Stuyvesant. That school was almost exclusively American/"New York" Jewish, populated with kids who were generations removed from immigration. But NYC itself has seen it's own immigrant population increase significantly in recent decades, so it should be reflected in the makeup of a school like Stuyvesant.

There's a long list of reasons why minorities don't perform as well Asian and Jewish kids. Go to Jewel and Main Street and observe the middle class Jewish kids and Asian kids a little further north on Main. They come from an environment that cultivates Stuyvesant students. Not as many minorities are as fortunate.

I think there are significant differences within the Hispanic community. The Cubans, appear to have made more progress than other groups.

There are differences. I don't know how significant they are. Most Hispanics under 40 seem to adopt a generic barrio identity of bling bling, Christian symbols(The US Hispanic ghetto culture has hijacked Christian symbols like the cross and other symbols---the gas stations near my home sells baseball caps with praying hands and wooden rosary necklaces for the barrio Mexicans who want to look all bad). Cubans probably have a different mentality because so many of them came through Florida, which was a "Southern" state until recently. I've been told that most Cubans, especially the waves who came in the 60's were mostly literate in Cuba, unlike the other Latino groups who come here as illiterates to perform manual labor.

People have said that the main reason why international companies like to set up shop in Miami(Univision, Telemundo, Televisa, etc......) is because Miami's Cuban population is literate and competent, compared to the labor pool of Hispanics in NYC and LA.




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