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Re: NY Times oddly worried that too many Asians go to Stuyvesant |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Feb 28 18:58:37 2012, in response to Re: NY Times oddly worried that too many Asians go to Stuyvesant, posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Feb 27 22:47:29 2012. John Gunther wrote that the Lower East Side and Forest Hills were separated by 13 miles and 3 generations.LOL. Great quote. I guess it's same for Lower East Side and Middle Village(just the mileage is slightly less). I would include the immigrants' grand children in the immigrant category. I think that qualification would include most of the Jewish kids you knew in those schools. That's cheating. In NYC in 2012, if you're going to include the grandchildren of immigrants in the immigrant category, it would include almost every student today. Especially in Queens and Brooklyn. Using the Beastie Boys as examples of the typical Jewish kids who attended Stuyvesant in the 80's, they are like the kids I knew in elementary school and in college. They are American Jewish, and they come from families who have been in New York for many generations. They have no sense of belonging to a foreign culture like the Italians I grew up with, or the many immigrants I see around NYC today. It's different today because of the waves of Jewish immigrants from Russia, Iran and even Israel. Before these Jews started coming to NY in 1979, when was the last big wave of Jewish immigration to American? Early 1900's? This actually relates to the NY-9 election in which a Jewish Democrat lost to a Republican. How can that happen in a district consisting of Kew Gardens, Forest Hills, and Rego Park. The answer is that the older American Jews have been replaced by immigrant Jews who don't see the world the same way. They aren't as liberal. It's the generation loses first hand contact with the immigrant generation that loses the immigrant edge It really works both ways. I have two close friends whose parents were immigrants. These friends were raised without video games, toys, and a strong sense of church and family. Having parents like that can be a tremendous advantage because the kids have nothing to do but study. No distractions. This seems to be part of the reason why Asian kids succeed academically. But if it's as simple as having the "immigrant edge", why do Hispanics follow a completely opposite path? |
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