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Posted by orange blossom special on Thu May 12 20:42:10 2011, in response to Re: Why Socialism Doesn't Work In America (not that it can't), posted by JayMan on Thu May 12 12:44:00 2011. "life was miserable for the vast majority of people."Eh, but the stuff that makes life new back then was as new as the newest tv today, so things start expensive as it is. I don't believe in unfettered markets, but there is a point where I cannot flush the toliet because of overregulation that really stifles things(if I had a dollar for every idea I had that I found out I can't do for some stupid rules....). The problem with unfettered things is obvious in history when we have price fixing and the like. But that is corruption. But we also have to point out that even Trotsky went over the US to make his point, and was impressed with the living standards of the so called poor. Which is a relative term. I don't want to, and I don't like making things in black and white, no pun intended, but when something is paid for on an invisible persons dime, therefore everyone uses it without conscience, price artificially inflates. Putting it this way, if buying a car was as simple as having your employer pay for it, and you only needed a 100 dollar copay, an Aveo would probably be 80,000 dollars right now! Then we spiral out of control in rules and taxes, until life is unaffordable, and we complain that we don't make enough for that aveo because there wasn't enough left to pay us with. My comparison with health insurance, which btw, I went to an ER department last year, was in and out in under an hour, paid 70 dollars. I disagree with Barrack Hussein Obama Sr who said we can be taxed 100% if all our needs were fulfilled. Because a) like North Korea, who is it exactly telling us how many potato chips is enough? a benevolent dictator? and B) people always want and need more! All my posts keep getting longer than I intent to by a longshot, but I have to go on this one tangent point but relates back to your original post. Back to the point A example I just gave on the potato chips. All of these systems we've been talking about have bureaucrats setting these rules because we're told they are honest and have no power to be corrupted, and therefore like judges are impartial. But when you see anyone walking down your street(through your farm, milking your cows if you bought any yet) do you see anyone who knows what is really good for you? I personally have enough common sense. But maybe that's an IQ thing to go back to your other post(I replied to these two backwards). EVERYTHING has a positive and a negative side. Sometimes I pine for that lassez-faire days so that I can walk to a place and get a job and paid that same day. Nowadays it's a 2 month long project getting a job, filling out bs forms online, drug test, whatever else, and then waiting weeks to get paid, and everyone is too afraid to hire anyone because you can't fire nobody! OTOH, I wouldn't want the safety record they had 125 years ago. There's always something. |
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