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Re: The Lower 46

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Aug 30 12:05:41 2010, in response to Re: The Lower 46, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 29 22:38:26 2010.

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It's impossible for me to consider Jefferson as the father of worldwide liberation or whatever you think that he might be when he considered the proper place for people like me was as personal property with as far as I can tell no rights whatsoever.

He really was far from alone. He was behaving just as you would expect any Virginian plantation-owner of his time to behave. And it's a bit of a red herring to bring up Christianity: an awful lot of churches used to read certain Bible verses as endorsing slavery. Here, for instance, is a Presbyterian sermon from 1861 that is very pro-slavery.

And in general, the further back you go, the larger the proportion of Christians you will find supporting slavery. It was only gradually that the anti-slavery movement among Christians moved from fringe groups to domination of most of the churches in the northern states.

If you want some of the verses that were read that way:

LEVITICUS 25
44. As for the male and female slaves whom you may have, it is from the nations around you that you may acquire male and female slaves.
45. You may also acquire them from among the aliens residing with you, and from their families that are with you, who have been born in your land; and they may be your property.
46. You may keep them as a possession for your children after you, for them to inherit as property. These you may treat as slaves, but as for your fellow Israelites, no one shall rule over the other with harshness

EXODUS 21
20. When a slaveowner strikes a male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies immediately, the owner shall be punished.
21. But if the slave survives a day or two, there is no punishment; for the slave is the owner's property.

LUKE 12
45. But if that slave says to himself, 'My master is delayed in coming,' and if he begins to beat the other slaves, men and women, and to eat and drink and get drunk,
46. the master of that slave will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour that he does not know, and will cut him in pieces, and put him with the unfaithful.
47. That slave who knew what his master wanted, but did not prepare himself or do what was wanted, will receive a severe beating.

1 TIMOTHY 6
1. Let all who are under the yoke of slavery regard their masters as worthy of all honor, so that the name of God and the teaching may not be blasphemed.
2. Those who have believing masters must not be disrespectful to them on the ground that they are members of the church; rather they must serve them all the more, since those who benefit by their service are believers and beloved. Teach and urge these duties.

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