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Re: Final text of Arizona SB1070 now available online

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 24 16:06:31 2010, in response to Re: Final text of Arizona SB1070 now available online, posted by AlM on Mon May 24 15:37:50 2010.

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That it did, and yes, you're right. But those libertarian aspects were taken from the original conservative beliefs that people could work things out for themselves generally and that with some education, people would see the light on their own. They surely underestimated the power of the stupid.

Not to defend their position back the in any way, but both came from an entirely different "time" in America. Goldwater and Arizona did not come from a Jim Crow mentality, nor did Buckley from New York/Connecticut. And while there was racism in both places, it was nothing compared to the deep south. And at the time, the deep south was pretty much not much of a national factor and was largely ignored by the rest of the US until the freedom rides brought it all to the forefront nationally. If you talk to people who are in their 70's and 80's now, you'll see that they largely didn't get it either. After all, it wasn't until the end of Roosevelt's years and particularly Truman that the issue even came up much.

Both of them, after seeing the violence in the late 50's and early 60's quickly came around once they saw what they had never noticed before. And as the GOP went for their "southern strategy" Goldwater in particular lost all love for the party's leadership and told them so. By the time the 80's came around, he walked away. For that age group, that was quite the reversal ...

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