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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Nov 21 14:23:19 2009, in response to Re: Bombshell: sometimes conspiracy theories are true, posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 20 17:06:44 2009. Hmmmm, I thought you'd invoke the authenticity spin, not the "wait and see" spin.Some facts: - The e-mails are authentic, at least the ones posted to the Russian server. - The e-mails involve more than one lab, they involve almost every major figure in AGW-land. Many are communications from CRU scientists to their colleagues outside CRU. For some specifics on what exactly was in these hacked e-mails, go here. Some of it is technical and beyond the layman's understanding, but enough exists which is easily understandable to anyone who can read: # Phil Jones encourages colleagues to delete information subject to FoI request.(1212063122) # Phil Jones says he has use Mann's "Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series"...to hide the decline". Real Climate says "hiding" was an unfortunate turn of phrase.(0942777075) # Letter to The Times from climate scientists was drafted with the help of Greenpeace.(0872202064) # Mann thinks he will contact BBC's Richard Black to find out why another BBC journalist was allowed to publish a vaguely sceptical article.(1255352257) # Kevin Trenberth says they can't account for the lack of recent warming and that it is a travesty that they can't.(1255352257) # Mann tells Jones that it would be nice to '"contain" the putative Medieval Warm Period'. (1054736277) # Tom Wigley tells Jones that the land warming since 1980 has been twice the ocean warming and that this might be used by sceptics as evidence for urban heat islands.(1257546975) # Tom Wigley discusses how to deal with the advent of FoI law in UK. Jones says use IPR argument to hold onto code. Says data is covered by agreements with outsiders and that CRU will be "hiding behind them".(1106338806) It just goes on and on. What cannot be denied is that there was a deliberate attempt to squelch scientific dissent, in just about every form (lying, firing dissenting scientists, character assasination, etc.) |
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