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Posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jun 22 12:25:03 2009, in response to Re: Gibbs Can't Name Countries Where Government Health Care Works Better, posted by bmtlines on Mon Jun 22 11:57:49 2009. Then why weren't they left alone?Political horse trading. Take none over or take them all over was the deal according to what I was told. Why that was I don't know. The age of the buses would have caught up to all of them - the city did not want to deal with private companies regardless of the reason. NYC DOT had already ordered many Orion Vs in both straight diesel and CNG in 1998-1999 as I recall it. As I understand the assessment of the fleets, the Cooper fleets other than the relatively new Orions were sometimes rolling POSs. MTA's main motivation to get rid of the 1988-1989 MCI Classics (40' buses, not to be confused with the 45' models later purchased for MTA Bus and the changeover) held in large amounts by LLE and NYBS was environmental consciousness, or so that was the story. The real problems were mainly at three of the former Cooper outfits: Triboro, Green-South Jamaica, and Green-Rockaways. Command and Jamaica Bus Lines were not too problematic based on what I recall. Buses, maintenance, safety, quality of the infrastructure, employee morale, etc., all of it was awfully poor. Besides NYBS, QS, and LLE had fewer routes and buses I don't recall the numbers exactly - I think that QS had the largest fleet, and all of it was in decent shape (I don't follow such things, but I think that it is all, with the exception of the MCI Classics then in service, all still in service, except for any vehicles totaled or under repair, etc.). NYBS and LLE did express runs. QS ran both local and express service from its depot in College Point, including for a bunch of local routes in Western Queens fairly far from College Point. So again, I just think that something was wrong with how the three very problematic outfits were being run, even when you compare it to QS and not the other two. |
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