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Re: Working-class Whites: The real second-class citizens?

Posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 7 04:03:28 2007, in response to Re: Working-class Whites: The real second-class citizens?, posted by Clayton on Thu Dec 6 11:08:49 2007.

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It's all relative. To some it might be "THE ENTIRE TONER CONTRACT" and to others it's just the fuckin toner, and not the entire repro contract or not the entire municipal/state budget. IME the set asides have been around 10%, sometimes 15. That leaves 85-90% of the budget for non-minority.

I've been on same design teams as minority firms, some good, some not so good, about same rate as majority firms. It's not like they cherry pick the easy assignments nor get the lion's share of the work. On the plus side, it gives opportunity to firms who wouldn't ordinarily get any work but on the down side it also has been abused. I think that once a minority firm reaches a certain size or achieves a certain gross, they should be ineligible for set-asides so a smaller outfit can gain from them.

My experience has been with large engineering firms and if it weren't for set asides, these firms would not have hired anyone other than white males. All that "we want the most qualified" talk is mostly crap IME.

your pal,
Fred

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