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Re: nonsense about atheism

Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Aug 28 16:45:30 2007, in response to Re: nonsense about atheism, posted by soton si on Tue Aug 28 16:22:15 2007.

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"Chemistry is - trust me, I know a lot of biologists and medics -"

Perhaps you should pay closer attention to them.

"Evolution is a part of biology, definitely not it's linchpin."

False. Chemistry describes the nuts and bolts, but evolution describes how the nuts and bolts got there and why they do what they do. I love chemistry, and always did well in it, but evolution is in the driver's seat in biological chemistry.

"I studied Biology with top grades till effective graduation - we studied natural selection for a couple of weeks in year 10, and that was pretty much it."

Piss-poor coursework. You could get an A there and the grade wouldn't be worth the paper it's printed on.

We got a heavy dose of natural selection, statistics and genetics in both high school and college. (I am not saying every high school does so; I was lucky to attend a good one). It was essential to undersanding the development of organisms.

Medical school here in the US is a post-BA program requiring 2 years of college biology.

"namely the interpretation and truth of Genesis 1, and it poses questions on the existance of God."

No it does not. Evolution in no way threatens the idea of a god's existence or not. It doesn't support it, either. The two ideas are not prerequisites to each other. However, scientific evidence is a prerequisite to evolutionary theory, whereas it is not a prerequisite to belief in a god or subscribing to a brand of religion. But since religions come in competing brands, that is why we leave the prosyletizing out of public school while discussing evolution in science class (and math class, as in algorithms and probabilities).

"Both offend people's religious views, both are true"

One is demonstably true by onbjective scientific means. The other is part of a mythology.

"Evolution, however, has become more than just Darwin's work, but a secular philosophy, that's justified communism, capitalism, fascism"

Evolution describes a reaction and adaptation to conditions. It makes no value judgments about these changes. Some changes enhance survival, and some changes do not. I recommend you read up on genetic algorithms. Evolution "justifies" nothing - it merely explains the process of adaptation. Subscribing to a religion is also often a reaction and adaptation to a sociological, political or psychological condition.









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