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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Aug 28 13:59:11 2007, in response to Re: nonsense about atheism, posted by soton si on Tue Aug 28 13:21:12 2007. "I am secure in my faith, very very secure - if I wasn't sure, I wouldn't be putting it to the test right now."If you were secure you wouldn't need to test it at all. "but you constantly said I was wrong" You're not wrong about choosing to be a Christian - only in insisting that Christianity is singularly connected with the physical world through a resurrection. It misses the point entirely. "I can't and don't try to forcibly convert people - I just stated lots of facts that you said don't exist. " Advocating for religious proselytizing in public school is part of forcing your religion down other people's throats. "I don't seem to favour a mandrassa, I favour a school that teaches facts of importance, like "if you follow Jesus you will not perish eternally", That is the definbition of a madrassa. It is exactly the same as someone telling you "If you do as Mohammed you will not perish eternally." There is no difference between the two. I public school, this would amount to SHDM (Same harassment, different mythology). "While it doesn't make the New Testament true, it makes it a far more reliable manuscript." Same for Ann Rice. The creatures in her novels must, therefore, be real. "Look at you - you reject the teaching of the resurrection of Jesus in schools, but you allow the teaching of, say, Julius Caesar existing, which is less historically certain." Actually, the opposite is true. There's some doubt in some historical circles whether Jesus of Nazareth was even a real person, and not some made-up character. However, more likely than not he did exist. "Luke wrote as a historian" No, he wrote as an advocate, an advertiser, for his chosen religion. "even people who had never met Jesus?" Even people who never met the aliens. 8-) "I said that they reject the validity of the evidence, despite the evidence." No, they reject the mythology presented as if it were evidence. Religion doesn't require physical proof; in fact physical proof is irrelevant. There is no objectivity in religion, though religious imperative can motivate people, like Charles Darwin, to explore the beauty of the world and describe it, or Bach, to write music. But in the end, religion serves the people who create it and subscribe to it, and people have created and subscribed to many religions. |
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