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Re: Trump Hits Highest Support Yet in GOP Polls: Now at 32%

Posted by Nilet on Sat Sep 12 15:28:15 2015, in response to Re: Trump Hits Highest Support Yet in GOP Polls: Now at 32%, posted by AlM on Sat Sep 12 01:32:41 2015.

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Socialists support government ownership of the means of production.

Um, no. I'm not sure anyone supports government ownership of the means of production now that the Soviet Union is gone.

Communists believe the workers should own the means of production (and as soon as they can figure out how, exactly, that might work, they will be welcome to join the Big Kids Club of political and economic beliefs).

Socialists believe that the free market works best when the government takes an active role to (a) prevent people from profiting from externalities, (b) minimising the effects of dumb luck and ensuring a minimum standard of living, and (c) directly operates industries that are necessary but inherently unprofitable, or for which profitability does not correlate with effectiveness.

Meanwhile, Olog believes there should be an absolute dictatorship with a hereditary monarch who owns all property and controls all power but leases chunks of both on a perpetual basis to hereditary lords who, by virtue of the mostly-irrevocable nature of their lease, possess both wealth and power. I'd ask you to keep that in mind before you try reasoning with him, but if recollection holds, your act is based around irrationally defending whatever position is at the midpoint between any two other parties.

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