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Posted by Nilet on Sun May 24 02:35:54 2015, in response to Re: 2nd Amendment? Re: No Thugs at Scene of Biker Gang 'Rumble', posted by Dave on Sat May 23 15:29:00 2015. None of which has anything to do with your original statement: All gun crimes are committed with legal gunsAnyone using an unregistered assault weapon in CT in the commission of a crime has committed a gun crime using an illegal gun. I see the meaning of that statement flew right over your head. Let's see if I can explain it in terms simple enough for you to comprehend. Guns are manufactured legally, sold legally, and owned legally. Some guns may be illegal in some places, and some individuals may be banned from buying guns, but fundamentally guns are legal by default. People who wish to own guns but are banned from using them or who wish to own a gun banned in their local area can turn to a black market of supposedly "illegal" guns. However, this black market is supplied from the legal market— a so-called "illegal" gun is actually a legal gun that was transported across state lines or city limits, or a legal gun that was sold to someone individually banned from owning it, or a legal gun that was stolen from its owner. As such, if you banned guns, the supply of so-called "illegal" guns would dry up, because an "illegal" gun is actually just a legal gun that slipped into the wrong hands. That was the point of my statement— all gun crimes were committed with a gun that wouldn't have existed if guns were banned. Claiming there is a distinction between "legal" and "illegal" guns is meaningless because they both come from the same (legal) factories and enter the market through the same (legal) distribution channels; ban guns, shutter the factories, and close the legal distribution channels and the "illegal" guns will vanish along with the rest of them. Pointing to state-level bans is irrelevant— an assault rifle banned in New York that was manufactured legally in South Carolina, sold legally in Virginia, and driven into New York is still a legal gun when discussing the effect of a gun ban on gun supply. Like I said, you cannot offer a single example of a gun crime committed with a gun that wasn't originally manufactured legally and put into circulation legally. |
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