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Re: Why is turning left so hard for so many people?

Posted by G1Ravage on Fri Mar 13 12:56:12 2015, in response to Why is turning left so hard for so many people?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 11 09:49:32 2015.

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People in this city don't understand that you CAN turn left on a regular green if you already missed the green left arrow, so long as there's no red left arrow or sign specifying you must have a green arrow to turn. In Las Vegas, where most intersections have left turn arrows, intersections with no red arrow will usually have a sign stating, "Left turn yield on green".

Click here for an example.

I most have a problem with this on Northern Boulevard eastbound at Union Street in Flushing. There's a dedicated left turn lane and signal that precedes the standard green, but there's no red arrow. The problem here though, is that the green arrow fades off before the main green comes on, and there IS a red light camera. So you can't sneak through as the left green turns yellow and disappears.

However, once the main green comes on, there's nothing stopping you from entering the intersection and turning left when oncoming traffic eases up. But almost nobody does. So before I ever enter the left turn lane there while the main green is on, I look to see if the first car is in the intersection or just sitting behind the stop line. If he's behind the stop line, I just go around him. I don't have time for this nonsense. Buses do the same thing.

I have a similar issue with these weak-ass left turners at our smaller intersections, on streets where it's one lane in each direction. Guy in front of me wants to turn left, but with no one in the intersection in front of him, he's basically waiting behind the crosswalk for oncoming traffic to ease, and I can't get around. When the light turns red, he's still sitting in front of me, instead of using that opportunity to complete his left turn.

When I'm the first car in those situations, I pull all the way into the intersection for two reasons. One, to give room for cars behind me to go around me on the right. Two, if an approaching car also wants to turn left, I'm blocking him from doing so, which allows me to complete my turn, since he has to stop so I can get out of the way.

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