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Re: How to Meaningfully Improve Traffic Safety

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Nov 19 17:33:50 2014, in response to Re: How to Meaningfully Improve Traffic Safety, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 19 14:24:11 2014.

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The number of contradictory statements in this post is revealing.

What is the speed limit on Queens Boulevard now? What was it before Vision Zero? You throw out multiple numbers, yet you can't seem to settle on one.

You claim "Boulevard of Death" was a sensationalist headline created by the media, but you acknowledge that conditions for the pedestrians were not safe and the cars were driving at 40 MPH. At no point do you ever consider the mountain of data that shows in addition to lengthening the walk signal and putting up fences in medians, that pedestrians walk away from accident scenes at an exponentially higher rate when the speed limit is 25 or 30 MPH as opposed to 40. You also acknowledge that the DOT engineers say that 30 MPH is the appropriate speed for the street, not 40.

I find your claims that it was "safe" to drive at 40 MPH to be dubious. There are more automobile crashes on Queens Boulevard than on any other road in all of New York State. Clearly, something is wrong in that corridor.

Also, your claim that there is a 99.999999999% chance that I'll cross the street safely is loaded. Clearly that isn't the case on Queens Boulevard and other corridors. It's a nice citywide statistic and probably true, but stats can change quickly once you start to consider them in different ways.

Your comparison about taking drugs off the market is irrelevant. It's true, we wouldn't shelve a drug for one fatality. But what about multiple fatalities in a fairly short period of time? Or would you just say people should try their luck and hope the medication won't kill them?

A 25-35 MPH limit is probably most appropriate for Queens Boulevard. Not 40. As for your insistence that most of the problems are solved, I still have trouble believing you're often a pedestrian, except when you go out to watch B1 and B49 buses pass you up so you have material for your blog.

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