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      <title>Re: YES WE CAN!!!!!!!!!! (SelkirkTMO)</title>
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      <description>&lt;b&gt;Posted by SelkirkTMO on 10/7/2008 1:20:06 AM EST&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;And THAT, &quot;my friends&quot;, is why McCain is sinking like Kerry.  :)</description>
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      <title>Re: YES WE CAN!!!!!!!!!! (SelkirkTMO)</title>
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      <description>&lt;b&gt;Posted by SelkirkTMO on 10/7/2008 1:19:00 AM EST&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;Heh. FAST snag by the copyright ghods ... go HERE then:

&lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvRu8Lkb7Og&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvRu8Lkb7Og&lt;/A&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 7  Oct 2008 06:19:00 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: by the numbers, McCain is a maverik (R30A)</title>
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      <description>&lt;b&gt;Posted by R30A on 10/7/2008 1:18:40 AM EST&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;A closely divided congress is ALWAYS going to have low approval ratings. Democrats are pissed that their plans will get vetoed by bush, while Republicans are pissed that their plans will not get passed by congress. Therefore, (nearly)NOBODY is happy. A metric which would actually be meaningful would be meaningful would be the average approval rating of each senator and representative. 
That number is around 50-70% IINM</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 7  Oct 2008 06:18:40 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: YES WE CAN!!!!!!!!!! (chicagomotorman)</title>
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      <description>&lt;b&gt;Posted by chicagomotorman on 10/7/2008 1:18:30 AM EST&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;MORONS</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 7  Oct 2008 06:18:30 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: YES WE CAN!!!!!!!!!! (jimmymc25)</title>
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      <description>&lt;b&gt;Posted by jimmymc25 on 10/7/2008 1:18:19 AM EST&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;I know....I&apos;ll be pulling that lever for Obama as well.

Even if I hadn&apos;t decided before this crap is way beyond a turnoff!

Jimmymc25</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 7  Oct 2008 06:18:19 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: YES WE CAN!!!!!!!!!! (SelkirkTMO)</title>
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      <description>&lt;b&gt;Posted by SelkirkTMO on 10/7/2008 1:17:44 AM EST&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here ya go ...

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      <title>Re: YES WE CAN!!!!!!!!!! (LuchAAA)</title>
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      <description>&lt;b&gt;Posted by LuchAAA on 10/7/2008 1:17:06 AM EST&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;I know you know the fists are symbollic of black power.  They&apos;re not cracking their knuckles.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 7  Oct 2008 06:17:06 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: 9p Hannity&apos;s America!Re: Barry Hussein Obama&apos;s past (Spider-Pig)</title>
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      <description>&lt;b&gt;Posted by Spider-Pig on 10/7/2008 1:16:32 AM EST&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obviously a rural hick.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 7  Oct 2008 06:16:32 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>NEWS article, not opinion: Impartiality of S.E.C. Questioned (SelkirkTMO)</title>
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      <description>&lt;b&gt;Posted by SelkirkTMO on 10/7/2008 1:13:23 AM EST&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/07/business/07pequot.html?_r=1&amp;hp&amp;oref=slogin&quot;&gt;&lt;B&gt;Impartiality of S.E.C. Questioned&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/A&gt;

By WALT BOGDANICH
Published: October 6, 2008

A federal inquiry has concluded that the Securities and Exchange Commission should consider disciplining its director of enforcement and two supervisors for their role in handling an insider trading investigation that led to the firing of an S.E.C. lawyer for trying to interview an influential Wall Street executive.

The commission’s inspector general, H. David Kotz, said in a 191-page report obtained by The New York Times that he had found evidence that “raised serious questions about the impartiality and fairness” of the S.E.C.’s investigation of possible insider trading at Pequot Capital Management, a giant hedge fund.

Mr. Kotz also condemned what he called the “common practice” of giving outside lawyers’ clients access to high-level S.E.C. officials when they had complaints about front-line investigators.

By accusing S.E.C. supervisors of treating the Pequot investigation differently from other similar investigations Mr. Kotz’s report puts added pressure on an agency that has recently been accused of failing to aggressively regulate financial institutions at the heart of the subprime mortgage crisis.

The inspector general’s report is the latest in a string of Congressional hearings and reports on the Pequot case. Those inquiries were begun after The Times, in June 2006, reported accusations by an S.E.C. lawyer, Gary J. Aguirre, that for political reasons his superiors at the agency had impeded his inquiry into possible insider trading at Pequot.

Mr. Aguirre complained that he was fired in September 2005, shortly after receiving a merit raise, because he wanted to take testimony from John J. Mack, currently the chief executive of Morgan Stanley and a close friend of Pequot’s founder, Arthur J. Samburg. Mr. Kotz’s investigation did not focus on whether insider trading occurred, but rather on Mr. Aguirre’s claims of preferential treatment and improper termination.

No enforcement actions were taken in connection with the Pequot investigation, which is now closed. Mr. Mack and Mr. Samberg have repeatedly denied any improper conduct.

The inspector general primarily sided with Mr. Aguirre’s version of events, accusing enforcement officials of failing “in numerous respects” to properly manage him and for allowing “inappropriate reasons to factor into its decision to terminate him.”

As a result, Mr. Kotz recommended possible disciplinary action against the director of enforcement, Linda Thomsen; Mr. Aguirre’s direct supervisor, Robert Hanson; and the assistant director of enforcement, Mark Kreitman.

Ms. Thomsen was criticized for providing “relevant information” about the commission’s evidence against Mr. Mack to Morgan Stanley’s counsel, Mary Jo White, a former United States attorney. At the time, Morgan Stanley was vetting Mr. Mack to be its new chief executive.

Ms. Thomsen, in describing e-mail messages, disclosed that there was “smoke” but “surely not fire,” the inspector general said. He also noted that Mr. Aguirre knew much more about the investigation, but that Ms. Thomsen did not consult him before speaking to Ms. White.

Mr. Kotz said it was “fairly routine” for outside lawyers to bypass front-line investigators and speak to S.E.C. supervisors when they had complaints about how their clients were being treated. This practice, Mr. Kotz said, would allow prominent lawyers to have better access to S.E.C. officials than less prominent ones.

In a statement Monday, the chairman of the Senate finance committee at the time, Charles E. Grassley, Republican of Iowa, who held hearings on the matter, said: “Gary Aguirre told it like it was and lost his job. Today we’re all paying the price for an S.E.C. culture of deference to Wall Street.”

Ms. Thomsen, Mr. Hanson and Mr. Kreitman did not return messages left at their office seeking comment.

John J. Nester, an S.E.C. spokesman, said Mr. Kotz’s report had concluded that the Pequot matter had been “aggressively pursued” and that “the investigation did not find that enforcement cases are generally affected by political decisions or the prominence of defendants.”

Mr. Nester said the agency’s review process would now determine “appropriate personnel actions.”

An earlier investigation of Mr. Aguirre’s charges by Walter J. Stachnik, Mr. Kotz’s predecessor, cleared the S.E.C. of any wrongdoing, but his report was sharply criticized by members of Congress when it was revealed that he had never interviewed Mr. Aguirre. Mr. Stachnik retired soon after.

Mr. Kotz said all of Mr. Aguirre’s supervisors had denied that his attempt to question Mr. Mack was behind his dismissal, but the inspector general found otherwise. “There was a connection between the decision to terminate Aguirre and his seeking to take Mack’s testimony,” the report stated.

After members of Congress criticized the S.E.C., the commission eventually took Mr. Mack’s testimony — several days after the statute of limitations had passed. In taking that testimony, Mr. Kotz said the commission “seems to have ‘gone through the motions.’ ”</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 7  Oct 2008 06:13:23 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: YES WE CAN!!!!!!!!!! (LuchAAA)</title>
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      <description>&lt;b&gt;Posted by LuchAAA on 10/7/2008 1:12:20 AM EST&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;But explain the symbolic use of fists in black fraternities.  
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      <pubDate>Tue, 7  Oct 2008 06:12:20 GMT</pubDate>
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