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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Mar 20 18:58:26 2008 Saw 998 today, and shot the front and rear:Front, at 34 Street and 3 Avenue about to enter service:  Rear, at 57 Street and 3 Avenue, sitting disabled after breaking down---antifreeze/coolant leak:  Enjoy. |
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Posted by Houston METRO Fan on Thu Mar 20 21:03:26 2008, in response to 998 (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Mar 20 18:58:26 2008. Tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk.Too bad it broke down. Do you know if it had to be towed away? Perhaps it may have been fixed on scene and returned to service? |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Mar 20 21:05:43 2008, in response to 998 (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Mar 20 18:58:26 2008. This is the only MTA bus with a manufacturer's plaque visible (the New Flyer "wings" are underneath the front MTA logo.) |
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Posted by Andy on Thu Mar 20 21:53:24 2008, in response to 998 (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Mar 20 18:58:26 2008. I saw the same bus (separate posting) Monday afternoon in L.I. City, on Hunterspoint Ave. just outside the Midtown Tunnel aroun 4:50 PM. No doubt it was waiting to go thru the tunnel and then do its revenue trip back to Queens.I know that this model is called a Viking but is it manufactured by Flyer? Thanks. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Thu Mar 20 22:00:27 2008, in response to Re: 998 (2 pics), posted by Houston METRO Fan on Thu Mar 20 21:03:26 2008. In the past when NYCTA express buses broke down in Manhattan, if a maintenance truck couldn't get the bus going, it would get towed to Manhattan depot for repairs and eventually make it's way back home. This may be a special case since the 3 of them stayed at Stengel depot. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Mar 20 22:09:27 2008, in response to Re: 998 (2 pics), posted by Andy on Thu Mar 20 21:53:24 2008. I know that this model is called a Viking but is it manufactured by Flyer?the New Flyer "wings" are underneath the front MTA logo |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Mar 20 22:11:07 2008, in response to Re: 998 (2 pics), posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Mar 20 21:05:43 2008. This is the only MTA bus with a manufacturer's plaque visibleNow hold on there. Yesterday I spent an hour standing around on Queens Plaza South and I distinctly recall seeing one them there MTA The Bus Orion Vs with an offset ORION plaque mounted on the front of the bus. |
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Posted by Bingham C50 on Thu Mar 20 22:11:23 2008, in response to Re: 998 (2 pics), posted by Andy on Thu Mar 20 21:53:24 2008. "I know that this model is called a Viking but is it manufactured by Flyer? Thanks."Yes, it was manufactured by New Flyer, and it was an attempt to compete with the MCI D4500. It was a good coach, too. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Mar 20 22:25:03 2008, in response to Re: 998 (2 pics), posted by WayneJay on Thu Mar 20 22:00:27 2008. However, MJQ should be able to fit a Viking, since it is a former Greyhound garage, and it occasionally may have had to handle a Trailways or Trentway-Wagar Prevost. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Mar 20 22:26:14 2008, in response to Re: 998 (2 pics), posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Mar 20 21:05:43 2008. Actually, you should say the only batch of NYCTA buses with the manufacturer's plate. |
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Posted by AcelaExpress2005 on Thu Mar 20 22:49:17 2008, in response to 998 (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Mar 20 18:58:26 2008. Ugliest bus ever. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Mar 20 22:52:56 2008, in response to Re: 998 (2 pics), posted by AcelaExpress2005 on Thu Mar 20 22:49:17 2008. There have been uglier buses. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Mar 20 22:55:39 2008, in response to Re: 998 (2 pics), posted by AcelaExpress2005 on Thu Mar 20 22:49:17 2008. I strongly disagree. |
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Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Thu Mar 20 23:08:48 2008, in response to 998 (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Mar 20 18:58:26 2008. I thought that the Designline hybrid bus in that Wachovia scheme was fairly ugly. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Thu Mar 20 23:21:58 2008, in response to Re: 998 (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Mar 20 22:25:03 2008. Agreed. I think they would go to Quill for the reason you stated and it's the nearest depot. I used to see SI (and Brooklyn) express buses parked at HUD quite often before it closed. I'd bet that these breakdowns in Manhattan now go to Quill. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Thu Mar 20 23:25:25 2008, in response to Re: 998 (2 pics), posted by AcelaExpress2005 on Thu Mar 20 22:49:17 2008. I totally disagree. In fact I think it looks much better than many buses - especially the Orion VII and the VII NG. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Mar 20 23:27:52 2008, in response to Re: 998 (2 pics), posted by WayneJay on Thu Mar 20 23:25:25 2008. Yes, the Orion VII NG is atrocious. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Mar 20 23:31:16 2008, in response to Re: 998 (2 pics), posted by WayneJay on Thu Mar 20 23:25:25 2008. Meh---the single-headlight Gillig Phantom is a TRULY ugly bus. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Thu Mar 20 23:31:22 2008, in response to Re: 998 (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Mar 20 22:26:14 2008. Yeah, that's because many people are quick to throw the MTA name at NYCTA or even MTA Bus. Never mind the fact the MTA consists of several agencies. It's like referring to one borough as New York City when all five of them form New York City. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Mar 20 23:32:44 2008, in response to Re: 998 (2 pics), posted by WayneJay on Thu Mar 20 23:21:58 2008. Quill is also used for most midday storage for express buses from Ulmer Park, Castleton, and Yukon. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Thu Mar 20 23:34:20 2008, in response to Re: 998 (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Mar 20 23:31:16 2008. I'd agree that the Phantoms with 4 headlights looks better, but it's a bus that I've always thought of as simpy very utilitarian. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Thu Mar 20 23:36:07 2008, in response to Re: 998 (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Mar 20 23:32:44 2008. Exactly, and I'm sure some of them go in after the AM rush and fail to start (or some other problem) for the PM rush, requiring it to be serviced there. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Mar 20 23:46:26 2008, in response to Re: 998 (2 pics), posted by WayneJay on Thu Mar 20 23:31:22 2008. Actually, one could say that it has been 25 years at LEAST since the NYCTA last spec'd a bus new that had the manufacturer's nameplate (the Vikings weren't spec'd by the MTA). |
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Posted by WayneJay on Thu Mar 20 23:56:19 2008, in response to Re: 998 (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Mar 20 23:46:26 2008. Yeah, I guess so because I remember NYCTA's '81 and '82 GM RTS had the GMC logo on the front, but they removed them when they started using the adhesive exterior advertisements. I don't remember is the '83 buses ever had the GMC logos. Thinking even further back NYCTA buses built after 1964 or so also didn't get the GMC (and Flxible) nameplates. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Fri Mar 21 01:03:05 2008, in response to Re: 998 (2 pics), posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Mar 20 22:11:07 2008. That was an ex-Green unit, though. I should have said "ordered by the MTA" in my original post -- oops.But I thought they were removing the Orion plaques when they repainted the buses... or at least painting them over with white paint. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Fri Mar 21 01:04:27 2008, in response to Re: 998 (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Mar 20 23:31:16 2008. You mean the ones that used to be at Foothill Transit? I don't know, I think I like these better than the other kind. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Fri Mar 21 01:05:51 2008, in response to Re: 998 (2 pics), posted by Bingham C50 on Thu Mar 20 22:11:23 2008. and it was an attempt to compete with the MCI D4500.And the Neoplan Metroliner. |
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Posted by RTS_Book on Fri Mar 21 01:39:22 2008, in response to Re: 998 (2 pics), posted by The Port of Authority on Fri Mar 21 01:04:27 2008. Agreed with you there. Also, I'm of the mindset that the Phantom school buses look a helluva lot better than the transits did. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Mar 21 07:05:15 2008, in response to Re: 998 (2 pics), posted by The Port of Authority on Fri Mar 21 01:04:27 2008. that doesn't look bad. |
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Posted by Mr RT on Fri Mar 21 07:17:58 2008, in response to Re: 998 (2 pics), posted by AcelaExpress2005 on Thu Mar 20 22:49:17 2008. Varity is the spice of life ... look at all the attention it is getting here !Personally I liked it enough to save a copy of A. Moreira's post for my own use. |
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Posted by mci guy on Fri Mar 21 07:21:27 2008, in response to Re: 998 (2 pics), posted by WayneJay on Thu Mar 20 23:36:07 2008. yes manhattan breakdowns of express buses go to quill for service. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Mar 21 08:44:53 2008, in response to Re: 998 (2 pics), posted by The Port of Authority on Fri Mar 21 01:03:05 2008. 5949 and 5977 never got it removed, however. Those were the first two repainted. It was removed from all others, however, IINM. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Fri Mar 21 15:32:06 2008, in response to Re: 998 (2 pics), posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Mar 20 23:27:52 2008. I like it better than the 'box' like front of the current O7's. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Mar 21 17:48:04 2008, in response to Re: 998 (2 pics), posted by The Port of Authority on Fri Mar 21 01:05:51 2008. The Metroliner's problem, however, was its height---it is a 12'4" bus, which may give it problems going through the tunnels. |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Fri Mar 21 23:39:58 2008, in response to Re: 998 (2 pics), posted by The Port of Authority on Fri Mar 21 01:04:27 2008. i hate that look |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Fri Mar 21 23:52:16 2008, in response to Re: 998 (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Mar 21 17:48:04 2008. But other than that, it would've been nice to see a 'variety' b/w the Viking and the D4500's. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Fri Mar 21 23:53:42 2008, in response to Re: 998 (2 pics), posted by WayneJay on Thu Mar 20 22:00:27 2008. A few days ago I saw a D4500 w/a tow truck preparing to tow it away. I think it was 3180. |
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