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The All New, New Flyer E40LF |
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Posted by CompoBUS on Tue May 31 22:16:25 2005 Here is one of the first looks at the new New Flyer E40LF which sports a new front end, updated sides and rear..Below is a front shot! ENJOY! Regards, Trevor Logan www.transitalk.info |
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Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Tue May 31 22:18:58 2005, in response to The All New, New Flyer E40LF, posted by CompoBUS on Tue May 31 22:16:25 2005. Yuck! Just what we need: another "smiley face" bus that looks pumped up on steroids.I'm sure it takes after the late lamented Compobus. BTW I'd rethink my screen name if I were you. May be jinxed. (LOL) BTW (again) thanx for the shot. joe c |
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Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF |
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Posted by RiverLINE3501 on Tue May 31 22:26:05 2005, in response to The All New, New Flyer E40LF, posted by CompoBUS on Tue May 31 22:16:25 2005. I guess that will carryover to the future D-DE30/35/40/60LF and as well.It's better than the ugly boxes that New Flyer has on the road now. |
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Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF |
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Posted by Motor Coach Industries on Tue May 31 22:26:20 2005, in response to The All New, New Flyer E40LF, posted by CompoBUS on Tue May 31 22:16:25 2005. Looks awesome! |
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Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF |
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Posted by GOLD_12th on Tue May 31 23:06:22 2005, in response to The All New, New Flyer E40LF, posted by CompoBUS on Tue May 31 22:16:25 2005. Wow, They updated the front real good. It has a creepy smilie face look with those little small headlights and the tounge sticks out. Maybe MTA could order few E40's right now! |
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Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Tue May 31 23:12:36 2005, in response to Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF, posted by RiverLINE3501 on Tue May 31 22:26:05 2005. You misspelled Orion.As for the E40LF: Ick. |
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Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF |
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Posted by willD on Tue May 31 23:43:17 2005, in response to Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF, posted by GOLD_12th on Tue May 31 23:06:22 2005. It'd only make sense for the MTA to use E60LF buses on their crosstown local routes. The electric buses would save fuel and maitenance costs on routes which find their buses normally operating at low speeds with frequent stops. This is the perfect regime for an electrically powered bus as opposed to a diesel or CNG powered bus. A hybrid would solve some of the problem, but without it building up some speed the regenerative braking system would have little to charge the batteries off of and the diesel would likely remain in relatively constant operation. |
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Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF |
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Posted by nwfblv6 on Wed Jun 1 00:27:40 2005, in response to The All New, New Flyer E40LF, posted by CompoBUS on Tue May 31 22:16:25 2005. Thanks for photo...so what's up for the 40is?Chaf |
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Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed Jun 1 00:34:27 2005, in response to The All New, New Flyer E40LF, posted by CompoBUS on Tue May 31 22:16:25 2005. It seems like the newer the design the uglier it looks. |
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Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF |
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Posted by general682002 on Wed Jun 1 01:18:45 2005, in response to The All New, New Flyer E40LF, posted by CompoBUS on Tue May 31 22:16:25 2005. Nice, looks like it's ready to hit the streets for Vancouver for summer.Is that the only photo you have so far? |
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Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Jun 1 09:47:16 2005, in response to The All New, New Flyer E40LF, posted by CompoBUS on Tue May 31 22:16:25 2005. Hmm, in the past, an E40 designation from New Flyer would indicate an electric trolley bus, is New Flyer out of that market? |
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Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jun 1 10:29:39 2005, in response to The All New, New Flyer E40LF, posted by CompoBUS on Tue May 31 22:16:25 2005. Add one more to the yuck column. Is the D40LF getting the same redesign? |
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Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF |
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Posted by Steve Hoskins on Wed Jun 1 13:22:11 2005, in response to Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Jun 1 09:47:16 2005. I think, Fred, that the E means its a hydbrid-electric...we have a couple of them )standard D40LF type bodies) at OCTA, and they are E40LF's. |
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Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF |
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Posted by Flatbush41 on Wed Jun 1 14:01:13 2005, in response to The All New, New Flyer E40LF, posted by CompoBUS on Tue May 31 22:16:25 2005. Well the updated face to the bus is so-so at best but at least it basically kept the same body design overall. |
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Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF |
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Posted by Eric B on Wed Jun 1 14:56:08 2005, in response to Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF, posted by GOLD_12th on Tue May 31 23:06:22 2005. What a contrast to the crying "wah" face of the old fishbowls! |
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Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF |
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Posted by Bingham C50 on Wed Jun 1 15:44:34 2005, in response to Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jun 1 10:29:39 2005. "Is the D40LF getting the same redesign?"If proven successful, I believe so. |
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Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Jun 1 15:52:38 2005, in response to Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF, posted by Steve Hoskins on Wed Jun 1 13:22:11 2005. Strange thing, the New Flyer web site lists the hybrids as DE40(LF) < shrugs > |
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New Flyer Designations....Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF |
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Posted by CompoBUS on Wed Jun 1 17:01:00 2005, in response to Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF, posted by Steve Hoskins on Wed Jun 1 13:22:11 2005. D = DieselC = CNG L = LNG DE = Diesel-Electric Hybrid GE = Gas-Electric Hybrid H = Hydrogen (Program Cancelled IIRC) E = Electric Trolley Bus F = Fuel Cell (Program Cancelled IIRC) 30 = 30 Footer 40 = 40 Footer 45 = 45 Footer 60 = 60 Footer LF = Low Floor HF = High Floor S = Suburban ITV = Intercity Transit Vehicle (Vikings ONLY) Regards, Trevor Logan www.transitalk.info |
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Re: New Flyer Designations....Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jun 1 18:00:41 2005, in response to New Flyer Designations....Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF, posted by CompoBUS on Wed Jun 1 17:01:00 2005. i = InveroITV? Didn't the Vikings get an S? |
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Re: New Flyer Designations....Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF |
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Posted by willD on Wed Jun 1 18:21:15 2005, in response to New Flyer Designations....Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF, posted by CompoBUS on Wed Jun 1 17:01:00 2005. I believe H and F were used interchangibly by busfans and even TAs during the Ballard Fuel Cell bus program in Vancouver and Chicago. However "H40LF" appears nowhere on the New Flyer website, the unofficial NFI production list, or in any literature I have seen released on those buses by NFI or Ballard. It'd seem the official letter is 'F' for a fuel cell, and since the program only included hydrogen fuel cells and didn't attempt to use petrolium based fuel cells, H is somewhat redundant in the designation. I suppose if the H desginator refers to a process of developing power from hydrogen gas outside of a fuel cell (such as combustion in a modified diesel engine), or if petrolium fuel cells come into use on NFI buses (however unlikey that is) then "H40LF" would be a legitimate designation. |
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Re: New Flyer Designations....Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF |
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Posted by CompoBUS on Wed Jun 1 20:47:38 2005, in response to Re: New Flyer Designations....Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jun 1 18:00:41 2005. It was "D45SHF ITV"I forgot about "i" my mistake Trevor |
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Re: New Flyer Designations....Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF |
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Posted by CompoBUS on Wed Jun 1 20:49:50 2005, in response to Re: New Flyer Designations....Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF, posted by willD on Wed Jun 1 18:21:15 2005. Like I said in the previous post, that project was cancelled. Right around the time of the "F" Model, NFI was being innovative and trying to develope a straight Hydrogen model, but like we see, it didnt go anywhere. But in literature that I have from NFI, "H" is used for that purporse only.Trevor |
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Re: New Flyer Designations....Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Wed Jun 1 21:16:14 2005, in response to New Flyer Designations....Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF, posted by CompoBUS on Wed Jun 1 17:01:00 2005. Isn't there a 35-footer as well? |
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Posted by W.E.S. on Wed Jun 1 22:14:26 2005, in response to The All New, New Flyer E40LF, posted by CompoBUS on Tue May 31 22:16:25 2005. Interesting looking specimen. Honestly I like the old front better. Of course it could have been worse, they could have tried to use the Invero front on it. |
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Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF |
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Posted by Steve Hoskins on Thu Jun 2 00:12:06 2005, in response to Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF, posted by Steve Hoskins on Wed Jun 1 13:22:11 2005. My mistake...I looked at the builder plate above the driver area...is is HE40LF. Sorry if I steered anyone the wrong way! |
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Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF |
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Posted by Bingham C50 on Thu Jun 2 05:03:53 2005, in response to The All New, New Flyer E40LF, posted by CompoBUS on Tue May 31 22:16:25 2005. I like it...quite promising. |
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Posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Thu Jun 2 20:18:22 2005, in response to The All New, New Flyer E40LF, posted by CompoBUS on Tue May 31 22:16:25 2005. It's looks okay, but the front should but changed. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Express on Thu Jun 2 20:48:12 2005, in response to The All New, New Flyer E40LF, posted by CompoBUS on Tue May 31 22:16:25 2005. That looks like what I thought the new Gillig was supposed to look like.Either way, finally, a new flyer that doesn't look like a school bus box sack of crap. Hopefully the interor isn't as loud as a factory floor on this version. |
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Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF |
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Posted by willD on Thu Jun 2 20:56:55 2005, in response to Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF, posted by Steve Hoskins on Thu Jun 2 00:12:06 2005. You certain that's not a DE40LF? |
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Posted by 4traintowoodlawn on Sun Jun 5 01:46:29 2005, in response to The All New, New Flyer E40LF, posted by CompoBUS on Tue May 31 22:16:25 2005. The lower front is a little disturbing IMO. I'm gonna have a friggin nightmare. |
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Posted by Hardcore on Thu Jun 9 20:50:46 2005, in response to The All New, New Flyer E40LF, posted by CompoBUS on Tue May 31 22:16:25 2005. OH MY GOD! THis is a dream come true!My favorite bus is now a hybrid! WHOOOOOOOOOWWWWWW! We need HUNDREDS of these! |
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Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF |
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Posted by Bingham C50 on Sun Jun 12 04:36:50 2005, in response to Re: The All New, New Flyer E40LF, posted by Hardcore on Thu Jun 9 20:50:46 2005. No, no...this particular unit is a an ETB (electric TROLLEY bus).If it were a hybrid, it would be designated DE40LF (diesel-electric) or CE40LF (CNG or LNG-electric). |
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